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<p>hi everyone,</p>
<p>i have finally had a look at the etherpad & made some small
changes. in general the language of the last 2 paragraphs seems a
bit unnecessarily complex, which means it may not be very
accessible to people who don't have english as a first language or
who are not familiar with the kind of language and phrasing being
used. <br>
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<p>i've made a simpler suggestion for the last sentence of the
second-last paragraph, and would like to rewrite the last
paragraph but first to consult on what is actually trying to be
said here. i think it is simply that the making, maintaining and
financing of systerserver.net is done by us collectively. we've
already talked about working with open source so is it necessary
to repeat so much here? i find it pretty difficult to read and
easily understand that last paragraph myself ... <br>
</p>
<p>h : )<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08.01.23 13:28, Gaba wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:0077e4d7-11a8-df1c-1178-dd8cbce44e4a@riseup.net">On
12/16/22 01:41, bolwerK wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Thanks mara for making the pad - and all
the contributions.
<br>
<br>
We do understand to write a collective text is an intense
process and we were involved some sessions (_when is the next
one?_) and had good discussions.
<br>
With this 'about page', we feel that it is about systerserver -
and not about the Instance Systertown, which has a different
genealogy and maybe intent.
<br>
<br>
If about is about systerserver, also with the vocabulary used in
the last paragraph, we can't identify .
Prosumers/consumers/services/utilities.... in the last year(s)
we did a bit of more speculative and imaginative voicing of our
praxis. Here are is a blogpost we are currently publishing ...
in which we were asked to define us and our activities..; at the
bottom you also have the radio interview with mur.at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://zoiahorn.anarchaserver.org/a-fair-new-idea-a-feminist-video-streaming-platform/">https://zoiahorn.anarchaserver.org/a-fair-new-idea-a-feminist-video-streaming-platform/</a>
and we lso like the text mara was pasting in the pad.
<br>
<br>
Also to coin the 'earliest know feminist server' is pretentious
and arrogant for me - taking a quiet colonial stance, [who
knows].
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Are we ok with this last paragraph from systerserver for who we
are? bolwerk: can you incorporate the changes you are proposing
into the text?
<br>
<br>
If that is fine then I will add it [0] to the systerserver.town
site
<br>
<br>
cheers,
<br>
<br>
gaba
<br>
<br>
[0] pad in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about">https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about</a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<br>
xm
<br>
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On 15/12/2022 12:31, mara wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">hi,
<br>
<br>
I made a pad to edit the _about_.
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about">https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about</a>
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<br>
Thank you Nancy for your contribution.
<br>
Some thoughts:
<br>
The text below, misses parts about trans rights. In an
interview with MELT last spring, and now in the editing
process of the interview to prepare it for publication, we
received feedback telling that our trans inclusion is not
visible. I can forward their feedback here. So good to reflect
on that.
<br>
The text below also refers to the colonial language in IT, but
doesn't tell how is circumvented or subverted to adele/jean
naming. if we include it we need to make that link visible, I
feel.
<br>
<br>
Moreover the current sysadmins of systerserver, me including,
we try to avoid the use "services" in our vocabulary, and we
haven't used the term "prosumers". So there is terminology
that needs more reflection of the current narrations we have
been using in our communications with artists, activists and
institutions. I have included in the pad as an inspiration, a
recent summary that we wrote for a fund to do some peertube
workshops.
<br>
<br>
HTH
<br>
m
<br>
<br>
On 12/15/22 05:15, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">this sounds good to me. one typo, near
the end of the second paragraph it should be "and other life
forms *is* imporant to ... " (not I)
<br>
<br>
also waving from the southern hemisphere, in the midst of
moving-in-to-new-home chaos 😁
<br>
<br>
h : )
<br>
<br>
On 13.12.22 16:41, Nancy Mauro-Flude wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">HI Anne / All
<br>
<br>
offering forth some text for 'about page' feel free to
tweak:
<br>
<br>
The earliest known feminist web server collective is
SysterServer.net launched on International Womxn’s Day, 8
March 2005, as an initiative of the Gender Changer
Academy. The SysterServer.net offers services to feminist,
queer and antipatriarchal groups and collectives. It
provides an autonomous repository of resources and digital
literacy support to womxn where it was, and still is,
partially seeded from the Open Source and Free Software
movements, which seek to incorporate principles of freedom
in sharing information and source code for others to
modify and extend to better suit holistic predilections.
<br>
<br>
The first web server of SysterServer.net was lovingly
named Jean. The act of renaming the hardware webservers as
Adele and Jean is contrary to heavily prescribed
trajectories and metaphors in IT language, such as ‘Master
and Slave’, which was once typical when referring to
computational hardware drives. Attending to the
persuasive power of metaphors and languages, as well as
materials and bodies, that then script bio-socio-political
life of humans and other life forms I important to
SysterServer.net and feminist internet frontier allies.
<br>
<br>
The implementation of technical utilities and the related
costs involved are conferred, administered, and maintained
cooperatively with peers. In this way, feminist web
servers are built, installed, co-designed, maintained, and
autonomously determined by an intimate community of
‘prosumers’ which bestows agency to the hands-on
procedures beyond a typical consumer of off-the-shelf
computational client user service.
<br>
<br>
Best Wishes from the southern hemisphere
<br>
Nancy
<br>
<br>
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On 13/12/2022 10:53, Anne Roth wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,
<br>
<br>
I agreed to help write a short draft for the 'about
page' of
<br>
systerserver.town, explaining a little who runs it and
what it's for,
<br>
and what it isn't for.
<br>
<br>
Since it's a project by the systerserver collective I
thought I'd
<br>
start by describing what and who this group is, maybe by
taking it
<br>
from something that's been written before.
<br>
<br>
This is quite concise <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://systerserver.net/">https://systerserver.net/</a> which is
totally fine
<br>
but is there more anywhere? Do you have pieces of text
that was used
<br>
for anything maybe? If not that's just as well, it
doesn't have to be
<br>
long at all. But if yes that would be super helpful.
<br>
<br>
Cheers,
<br>
Anne
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