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<p>hi natacha,</p>
<p>thanks for sharing this. i also recently applied to NLnet for a
grant for UpStage, in collaboration with mur.at & artists in
graz. we didn't get it, but we did get some helpful feedback &
i also came to understand that they are most interested in funding
very technical stuff. our application was based around a technical
need but it was not such an essential thing and there was also a
large artistic / training component which they were not interested
in funding. <br>
</p>
<p>i don't know if we will apply again to NLNet - it was good in
that the application process was not too onerous, & there was
good communication & feedback, but UpStage is fundamentally an
arts project, even if we are making the technology for it, &
i'm not sure how we could meet the criteria.</p>
<p>if there is a meeting about this i will try to join (if the time
difference works as i'm still in nz).<br>
</p>
<p> h : )<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18.04.23 02:20, natacha wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:6e7a75e6-d42c-79bf-f5b4-6efb0386ce6a@lesoiseaux.io">Dears,
<br>
<br>
<br>
I unfortunately had not followed the list for a while, end as I
open the folder to see where people are at in systerserver I see
this rejection e-mail.
<br>
<br>
As some of you might know petites singularités is part of the NGI0
consortium as we do mentoring. In the previous 4 years it was only
hellekin working but since january I have decided to join also
(mainly because there are other feminist structures that have
entered and I hoped it would make a change.)
<br>
<br>
This does not mean we have any impact on which projects are
decided for, quite the contrary Nlnet handles the consortium in an
autocratic way and it is very difficult to act upon anything, or
even get to have any information (we only see the accepted
applications).
<br>
<br>
But still we are struggling us and a handful of other partners.
<br>
<br>
In all cases as mentors it is our role to support people in the
process of writing their application and in the past 4 years we
have supported a number of projects into successful granting. So
please if people from this community want to apply to NGI0 funding
do ping me and we can have a chat and give counsels about how the
grant demand should be presented.
<br>
As a bottom line, only super technical projects are accepted, we
are advocating that they consider funding projects that would be
more community geared but it is like shouting in the void. So I
will use this case (as much as other rejection cases) to make my
point again .... and... again.
<br>
<br>
If people want to know more about those issues and the functioning
of the NGI0 grant, I would be happy to join a meeting one of
those days and talk about it.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Warm regards
<br>
<br>
natacha
<br>
<br>
p.s.: Obviously what is talked here stays here.....
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On 4/15/23 18:27, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:michiel@nlnet.nl">michiel@nlnet.nl</a> wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Dear Mara,
<br>
<br>
<br>
we have identified the projects we will be further investigating
for the latest NREN open call. I'm sorry to have to inform you
that your project "Feminist sysadmin handbook" (2023-02-003)
unfortunately was not among those selected.
<br>
<br>
This in no way means that we do not see the value of the work
you proposed. We get many more excellent proposals than we can
grant with our limited means, so competition is extremely tough.
There are unfortunately many talented independent researchers,
developers and community leaders that need funding. In addition
to that, the specific scope and rules of play of each call pose
(sometimes artificial) limits in our selection that mean
excellent projects leave empty-handed - because they just do not
fit well enough within a certain fund.
<br>
<br>
Again, we are very sorry that we cannot offer you support for
your good efforts. We hope you are not discouraged, and are able
to secure funding elsewhere for the project, for instance from
any of these organisations:
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://NLnet.nl/foundation/network.html">https://NLnet.nl/foundation/network.html</a>
<br>
<br>
or through other calls from the Next Generation Internet:
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ngi.eu/opencalls">https://www.ngi.eu/opencalls</a>
<br>
<br>
And do trust that we have your funding need and the outline of
your project in the back of our head from now on, and so we
might come back to you if an opportunity arises (unless you
asked us to destroy your contact details in the application
form, in which case we will do so).
<br>
<br>
If you should have any questions, please let us know. And in
case you have another good project in mind in the future, do not
hesitate to submit again!
<br>
<br>
Kind regards,
<br>
on behalf of NLnet foundation,
<br>
<br>
Michiel Leenaars
<br>
Strategy Director
<br>
+31 20 8884252
<br>
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<p> <a href="mailto:helen@creative-catalyst.com"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helen@creative-catalyst.com</a><br>
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