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        On Sunday, July 30th, 2023 at 4:16 PM, Douwe <douwe@dosch.nl> wrote:<br><br>
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Late request: if you have any pictures of your infrastructure, one of the two servers preferably, that would be awesome.<br>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 30 Jul 2023, 10:04 +0200, Donna <donna@genderchangers.org>, wrote:<br>
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Er is een zin die niet lekker loopt, zit twee het woord "ondertussen" in...<br>
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Mika, it's mentioned we want to make a book but I think it's a zine right?<br>
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En over de laatste zin, het eindigd negatief "Als je daar geen interesse<br>
in hebt, dan moet je geen collectief beginnen." Ik kan me niet<br>
herinneren dat ik dat zei, anyways, als het op een positieve noot kan<br>
sluiten, liever. Die ene laatste zin vind ik mooi als slot.<br>
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Oh en misschien in "niet boos op elkaar" in weinig boos op elkaar, want<br>
is wel heel af en toe drama. Al is het te verwaarlozen :).<br>
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On 30/07/2023 08:22, Douwe wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hey Ezn,<br>
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Thnx for the extra effort, I’ll try to incorporate your notes in the<br>
final text.<br>
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One thing is just that there is some hanging ambiguity… You say you<br>
don’t want to use some pronouns, but can you suggest which one would be<br>
better?<br>
Otherwise I might make a decision that also does not fit…<br>
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Thank you for this.<br>
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And Donna, you didn’t have any other comments?<br>
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Thnx!<br>
Douwe<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">hi Douwe && Donna,<br>
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i've put it on the pad and left some notes<br>
https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/ama-systerserver<br>
<https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/ama-systerserver><br>
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[original txt: https://doc.pondr.nl/s/BFGs7o0Hw#<br>
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On Wednesday, July 19th, 2023 at 9:21 PM, Douwe <douwe@dosch.nl> wrote:<br>
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Here is the first draft of our conversation. You can put any comments<br>
your might have in between brackets; this way I’ll easily see them.<br>
https://doc.pondr.nl/s/BFGs7o0Hw# <https://doc.pondr.nl/s/BFGs7o0Hw#><br>
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I’ll leave it at your discretion if you want the other members of the<br>
systerserver to read the text before publication, but feel free to<br>
share if you would want to.<br>
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Looking forward to your feedback.<br>
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Best<br>
Douwe<br>
On 12 Jul 2023 at 22:17 +0200, ¬ ` <vo.ezn@leverburns.blue>, wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">hi,<br>
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thank you both for the mellow meetup ]]<br>
curious abt the txt ~<br>
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vims,<br>
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On Monday, July 10th, 2023 at 9:16 AM, Douwe <douwe@dosch.nl> wrote:<br>
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I didn’t have email with me yesterday, only see your messages now.<br>
Thank you for the conversation and sharing your dreams, knowledge<br>
and history; looking forward to meet again one day!<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Douwe<br>
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where should we meet?<br>
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get to tbd<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Am driving to you. A little late but let me know what you decide<br>
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9 Jul 2023 17:15:47 ¬ ` <vo.ezn@leverburns.blue>:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">hi i was about to go outside and it started pouring<br>
could you please let me know if you are already at TBD?<br>
would it be be alright if i joined later as i wait for the<br></blockquote>
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