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    <p>i agree with donna - these emails are usually about maintenance
      outages or other issues with the mur.at servers, email, etc. &
      so it is quite important that they do still come to us, even if we
      rarely read them.</p>
    <p>this particular issue of internal conflict has never come up
      before. as i understand it, the board members have dealt with it
      & resolved it, and are simply being transparent about the
      processes so that there is no need for rumour & speculation in
      the community.<br>
    </p>
    <p>i would expect the mailing list to go back to its normal low
      volume of server-related announcements; sometimes individuals
      reply to the list with thanks or questions but in the past this
      hasn't been a big amount & in the interests of ensuring that
      we're aware of any outages etc i think it's easy enough to just
      delete them, rather than unsub from the list.</p>
    <p>h : )<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09.05.24 11:13, Donna wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:8f83952b-7b32-4c52-8a64-44cc25ae36a0@genderchangers.org">I
      think it's interesting to know what is happening on the network in
      which our servers are hosted. I've never seen a thread this long
      on their mailing list so perhaps this is an outlier and we should
      wait? If it happen's a second time then I think we should unsub en
      give people a link to the mailing list if they want to be kept in
      the loop of mur.at admin things.
      <br>
      <br>
      On 08/05/2024 22:42, Anne Roth wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">Hi,
        <br>
        <br>
        I was thinking all the mur.at-mails, yes. Unless someone wants
        or needs to read them?
        <br>
        <br>
        Anne
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Am 08.05.24 um 22:34 schrieb ¬ `:
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">good evening ]]
          <br>
          <br>
          i approved these emails manually.
          <br>
          <br>
          @Anne, when you say 'these mails', what do you mean? all
          mur.at member emails?
          <br>
          we could devise a protocol or opt out from receiving those if
          possible, cause going though them is also extra work and if no
          one wants to see them then there is no point.
          <br>
          <br>
          vims,
          <br>
          _ezn
          <br>
          <br>
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          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          _____ EOM
          <br>
          ¬` vo ezn
          <br>
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          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          On Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 at 10:26 PM, Gaba
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gaba@riseup.net"><gaba@riseup.net></a> wrote:
          <br>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">On 5/8/24 16:41, Anne Roth wrote:
            <br>
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          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">I would like to suggest that these
              mails don't get sent to all of us -
              <br>
              is there a way? Or is there a specific purpose why it's
              handled this way?
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
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          </blockquote>
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          <blockquote type="cite">
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          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">This is the first time it happens. Can
            you give us a summary of the
            <br>
            translation of what this is about? :)
            <br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">Cheers,
              <br>
              Anne
              <br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">Am 07.05.24 um 18:40 schrieb Anto
              Manhartsberger:
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          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">Liebe mur.at-Mitglieder,
                <br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">Hiermit melden wir uns mit einem
                Update zur aktuellen Situation bei
                <br>
                mur.at. Seit längere Zeit schwelte ein Konflikt zwischen
                unseren
                <br>
                Mitarbeitern Andreas und Ralph. Am 9. April eskalierte
                dieser
                <br>
                Konflikt und es kam zu Handgreiflichkeiten. Andreas
                erstattete
                <br>
                Anzeige gegen Ralph. Da niemand vom Präsidium anwesend
                war, wollen
                <br>
                und können wir uns dazu nicht näher äußern. Eine Klärung
                der
                <br>
                Konfliktsituation ist uns natürlich dennoch wichtig.
                <br>
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            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">In den Wochen seit der Eskalation
                sind wir im Präsidium bemüht, eine
                <br>
                Lösung derGesamtsituation zu finden. Nach eingehender
                Diskussion und
                <br>
                Gesprächen mit allen Beteiligtenhaben wir uns dazu
                entschieden, die
                <br>
                Dienstverhältnisse mit Andreas und Ralph in
                gegenseitigem
                <br>
                Einverständnis aufzulösen, weil die Vertrauensbasis
                sowohl im Team
                <br>
                als auch zwischen Team und Präsidium nicht mehr gegeben
                ist und wir
                <br>
                unbedingt das Weiterbestehen des Vereins sichern wollen.
                <br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">Wir möchten bei der kommenden
                Generalversammlung gemeinsam mit allen
                <br>
                Mitgliedern über diese Vorkommnisse reflektieren und
                überlegen,
                <br>
                welche Konsequenzen sich daraus für die weitere Arbeit
                von mur.at
                <br>
                ergeben. Daher freuen wir uns über eine rege Teilnahme:
                GV am 11.
                <br>
                Juni 18h im Forum Stadtpark - Salon
                <br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">Viele Grüße vom Präsidium,
                <br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">Jogi, Maggie und Anto
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          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________
                <br>
                A mur.at service.
                <br>
                members mailing list
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:members@lists.mur.at">members@lists.mur.at</a>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/members">https://lists.mur.at/mailman/listinfo/members</a>
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            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________
                <br>
                Adminsysters mailing list
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org">Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org</a>
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          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________
              <br>
              Adminsysters mailing list
              <br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org">Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org</a>
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          <blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________
            <br>
            Adminsysters mailing list
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            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org">Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.genderchangers.org/mailman/listinfo/adminsysters">https://lists.genderchangers.org/mailman/listinfo/adminsysters</a>
            <br>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________
            <br>
            Adminsysters mailing list
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            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org">Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.genderchangers.org/mailman/listinfo/adminsysters">https://lists.genderchangers.org/mailman/listinfo/adminsysters</a>
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        _______________________________________________
        <br>
        Adminsysters mailing list
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        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org">Adminsysters@lists.genderchangers.org</a>
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      <p>helen varley jamieson<br>
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      <p> <a href="mailto:helen@creative-catalyst.com"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">helen@creative-catalyst.com</a><br>
        <a href="http://www.creative-catalyst.com"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.creative-catalyst.com</a><br>
        <a href="http://www.upstage.org.nz"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.upstage.org.nz</a><br>
        <a href="https://mobilise-demobilise.eu/"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://mobilise-demobilise.eu</a></p>
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