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    <p>ok thanks ðŸ™‚</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/01/2025 1:05 am, Donna wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:74397119-f9ad-48d0-a362-fe154ac516f4@genderchangers.org">Hi
      Helen,
      <br>
      <br>
      Let's chat over Signal, we'll get it working.
      <br>
      <br>
      Donna
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      On 11/01/2025 01:03, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
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      <blockquote type="cite">ok, this said that the security setting
        should be OAuth2, however this still doesn't work ðŸ˜• webmail
        also not.
        <br>
        <br>
        but nevermind as it must be set up to forward to me anyway. just
        weird that i'm now getting failures from thunderbird all the
        time.
        <br>
        <br>
        thanks,
        <br>
        <br>
        h : )
        <br>
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        On 10/01/2025 2:08 pm, Donna wrote:
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        <blockquote type="cite">Hi Helen,
          <br>
          <br>
          On the page <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl">https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl</a> you find all the
          settings you need. I think the way I wrote it below was not
          clear, apologies.
          <br>
          <br>
          Donna
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          On 10/01/2025 18:23, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
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          <blockquote type="cite">hmm - it's still failing, with the new
            password you sent donna, & thunderbird won't let me put
            in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl">https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl</a> as the mail server. i've
            always had just mx.tuxic.nl
            <br>
            <br>
            what should the security settings be? i've tried both
            SSL/TSL and STARTTLS, but both fail. it just says that the
            login failed.
            <br>
            <br>
            h :/
            <br>
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            On 10/01/2025 2:18 am, Donna wrote:
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            <blockquote type="cite">Hi Helen,
              <br>
              <br>
              I will reset the password for you and send it via Signal.
              <br>
              <br>
              The mail server settings are:
              <br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl">https://tuxic.nl/mx.tuxic.nl</a>
              <br>
              <br>
              Donna
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              <br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">On 9 Jan 2025, at 19:27, Helen
                Varley Jamieson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:helen@creative-catalyst.com"><helen@creative- catalyst.com></a>
                wrote:
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                ï»¿
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                hi,
                <br>
                <br>
                i've moved my email (thunderbird) to another laptop
                & now get errors checking my
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:helen@genderchangers.org">helen@genderchangers.org</a> account, saying the password is
                incorrect or asking me to enter a password. but i have
                no idea what my password is or was.
                <br>
                <br>
                is someone able to reset the password? & is
                mx.tuxic.nl still the mailserver?
                <br>
                <br>
                thanks,
                <br>
                <br>
                h : )
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      <p>helen varley jamieson<br>
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