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    <p>hi everyone!</p>
    <p>we took profit of this session to catch up and chat a bit with
      natx and carmela. we took some time to discuss the different
      phrasing options to replace the third and fourth iteration of
      "women" by a more relevant one, and we come up with a proposal for
      updating some bits. <br>
    </p>
    <p>-
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver">https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver</a></p>
    <p>proposal:<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote>
      <div aria-live="assertive" id="magicdomid2008" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">Systerserver
          is one of the earliest known feminist server collectives.
          Systerserver was initially set up to get more women involved
          in technology. Currently, Systerserver is managed by women,
          lesbians and trans* people fighting against the
          [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://blackfeminisms.com/matrix/">https://blackfeminisms.com/matrix/</a> 'matrix of domination'].
          There are two main aims to the project: a) creating a space
          where women, lesbians and trans* people can become system
          administrators and maintain free and open source software b)
          hosting feminist infrastructures for technopolitical
          organization within our communities and in part for other
          feminist initiatives. The server hosts </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225 url"><a
            href="https://git.systerserver.net"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://git.systerserver.net</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          Gitlab]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">,
          Nextcloud, </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">a</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"> </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
            href="https://systerserver.town" rel="noreferrer noopener"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://systerserver.town</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
        </span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">Mastodon
          instance</span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
            href="https://lists.systerserver.net/"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.systerserver.net/</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          m</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">ailing
          lists</span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, a </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
            href="https://tube.systerserver.net"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://tube.systerserver.net</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          feminist video</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">
          platform </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">(</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">PeerTube</span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">)]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
href="https://git.systerserver.net/systerserver/doc-website/-/wikis/home#tools%22%22"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://git.systerserver.net/systerserver/doc-website/-/wikis/home#tools%22%22</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          technical documentation]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
href="https://git.systerserver.net/mara/vpn-zines/-/wikis/docs"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://git.systerserver.net/mara/vpn-zines/-/wikis/docs</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
        </span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">VPN
          zines</span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"> and
          the </span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225 url"><a
            href="https://eclectictechcarnival.org/ETC/about/"
            rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://eclectictechcarnival.org/ETC/about/</a></span><span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">
          Eclectic Tech Carnival website</span><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
        </span></div>
    </blockquote>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line">regarding the practical
      infos, we noticed an inconsistency between the email addresses on
      the wiki (<span
        class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:contact@systerserver.net">contact@systerserver.net</a>)
      </span>and on systerserver.net (<span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@systerserver.net">info@systerserver.net</a>).
        are they both valid?</span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
      </span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">-
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://systerserver.net/">https://systerserver.net/</a></span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
      </span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">we
        didn't come up with an actual proposal but natx brought up some
        various-sized paragraphs to replace or complete the existing
        one. you can find this all on the pad:
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/alexandria_update">https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/alexandria_update</a></span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
      </span></div>
    <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
        class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">good
        night!<br>
      </span></div>
    <p></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 17/02/2025 à 20:05, mara a écrit :<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Indeed /etc was in 2002, and the syster server in
        2005, I had found the date in the mailing list archives a while
        back, when we were writing the federation essay with nate<br>
        <br>
        mara</div>
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        <div dir="auto">On 17 February 2025 19:05:42 CET, nate
          wessalowski <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wessalow@posteo.de"><wessalow@posteo.de></a> wrote:</div>
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
          <pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">hi all, we meet here in one hour: <a
          href="https://visio.futuretic.fr/systerserveralexandriaupdate"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://visio.futuretic.fr/systerserveralexandriaupdate</a> [sorry, i completely forgot to send a reminder with the date and time, i hope someone shows up]]

On 1/24/25 12:24, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
          dir="auto">great, thanks. let me know after the meeting & i will do a proofreading.

(was systerserver actually founded as early as 2002? that was /etc, i thought systerserver came a bit later ... )

On 24/01/2025 12:03 pm, nats wessax wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
          dir="auto">cool, cool. here is the link to what it says now: <a
href="https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver</a>

On 1/24/25 11:55, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
          dir="auto">
i would be happy to proofread/check the systerserver text once it's done (english). is there a link to look at the text that's there now?

h : )

On 23/01/2025 4:57 pm, nats wessax wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
          dir="auto">looks like monday 17th of febuary is a good time. anybody else wants to join? (i can also add more dates)

nate

On 1/18/25 16:00, nats wessax wrote:
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
          dir="auto">hi,

i am doing this round call for updating the anarchaserver wiki and it would also be cool to update the systerserver text there:

does anybody want to join me in rewriting the paragraph? then pls click the poll :))

<a
href="https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=uOdww6HW4zWwpVNB"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=uOdww6HW4zWwpVNB</a> 

greets!

nate [they/them]

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