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    <p>great work πŸ™‚ i made some comments & suggestions on the pad.</p>
    <p>h : )<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/17/25 22:17, adalanerd wrote:<br>
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      <p>hi everyone!</p>
      <p>we took profit of this session to catch up and chat a bit with
        natx and carmela. we took some time to discuss the different
        phrasing options to replace the third and fourth iteration of
        "women" by a more relevant one, and we come up with a proposal
        for updating some bits. <br>
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      <p>-
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver</a></p>
      <p>proposal:<br>
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        <div aria-live="assertive" id="magicdomid2008" class="ace-line"><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">Systerserver
            is one of the earliest known feminist server collectives.
            Systerserver was initially set up to get more women involved
            in technology. Currently, Systerserver is managed by women,
            lesbians and trans* people fighting against the [<a
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="https://blackfeminisms.com/matrix/"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://blackfeminisms.com/matrix/</a>
            'matrix of domination']. There are two main aims to the
            project: a) creating a space where women, lesbians and
            trans* people can become system administrators and maintain
            free and open source software b) hosting feminist
            infrastructures for technopolitical organization within our
            communities and in part for other feminist initiatives. The
            server hosts </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225 url"><a
              href="https://git.systerserver.net"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.systerserver.net</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
            Gitlab]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">,
            Nextcloud, </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">a</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"> </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
              href="https://systerserver.town" rel="noreferrer noopener"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://systerserver.town</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          </span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">Mastodon
            instance</span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
              href="https://lists.systerserver.net/"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.systerserver.net/</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
            m</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">ailing
            lists</span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, a
          </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
              href="https://tube.systerserver.net"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://tube.systerserver.net</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
            feminist video</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">
            platform </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">(</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">PeerTube</span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">)]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
href="https://git.systerserver.net/systerserver/doc-website/-/wikis/home#tools%22%22"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.systerserver.net/systerserver/doc-website/-/wikis/home#tools%22%22</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
            technical documentation]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">, </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs url"><a
href="https://git.systerserver.net/mara/vpn-zines/-/wikis/docs"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.systerserver.net/mara/vpn-zines/-/wikis/docs</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">
          </span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">VPN
            zines</span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"> and
            the </span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">[</span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225 url"><a
              href="https://eclectictechcarnival.org/ETC/about/"
              rel="noreferrer noopener" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://eclectictechcarnival.org/ETC/about/</a></span><span
            class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225">
            Eclectic Tech Carnival website</span><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">]</span></div>
        <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
            class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
          </span></div>
      </blockquote>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line">regarding the
        practical infos, we noticed an inconsistency between the email
        addresses on the wiki (<span
          class="author-a-z83zlz84zuz90zz68zz81z8z122z4hxz80z225"><a
            class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="mailto:contact@systerserver.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">contact@systerserver.net</a>) </span>and
        on systerserver.net (<span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><a
            class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="mailto:info@systerserver.net" moz-do-not-send="true">info@systerserver.net</a>).
          are they both valid?</span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
        </span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">-
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://systerserver.net/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://systerserver.net/</a></span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
        </span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">we
          didn't come up with an actual proposal but natx brought up
          some various-sized paragraphs to replace or complete the
          existing one. you can find this all on the pad: <a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/alexandria_update"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/alexandria_update</a></span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs"><br>
        </span></div>
      <div aria-live="assertive" class="ace-line"><span
          class="author-a-z65zz85zz68zz87zz84zz69zad17z86z0cz76zz78zs">good
          night!<br>
        </span></div>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 17/02/2025 Γ  20:05, mara a Γ©critΒ :<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Indeed /etc was in 2002, and the syster server
          in 2005, I had found the date in the mailing list archives a
          while back, when we were writing the federation essay with
          nate<br>
          <br>
          mara</div>
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          <div dir="auto">On 17 February 2025 19:05:42 CET, nate
            wessalowski <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
              href="mailto:wessalow@posteo.de" moz-do-not-send="true"><wessalow@posteo.de></a>
            wrote:</div>
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            <pre class="k9mail"><div dir="auto">hi all, we meet here in one hour: <a
href="https://visio.futuretic.fr/systerserveralexandriaupdate"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://visio.futuretic.fr/systerserveralexandriaupdate</a> [sorry, i completely forgot to send a reminder with the date and time, i hope someone shows up]]

On 1/24/25 12:24, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
            dir="auto">great, thanks. let me know after the meeting & i will do a proofreading.

(was systerserver actually founded as early as 2002? that was /etc, i thought systerserver came a bit later ... )

On 24/01/2025 12:03 pm, nats wessax wrote:
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
            dir="auto">cool, cool. here is the link to what it says now: <a
href="https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver</a>

On 1/24/25 11:55, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #8ae234; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
            dir="auto">
i would be happy to proofread/check the systerserver text once it's done (english). is there a link to look at the text that's there now?

h : )

On 23/01/2025 4:57 pm, nats wessax wrote:
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #fcaf3e; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
            dir="auto">looks like monday 17th of febuary is a good time. anybody else wants to join? (i can also add more dates)

nate

On 1/18/25 16:00, nats wessax wrote:
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style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #e9b96e; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
            dir="auto">hi,

i am doing this round call for updating the anarchaserver wiki and it would also be cool to update the systerserver text there:

does anybody want to join me in rewriting the paragraph? then pls click the poll :))

<a
href="https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=uOdww6HW4zWwpVNB"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=uOdww6HW4zWwpVNB</a> 

greets!

nate [they/them]

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