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<p>hi all!</p>
<p>oh thank you so much for your contributions, it's awesome to read
this and to have the chance to do this altogether. I'm super
excited!</p>
<p>I'll try to sum it up now and send a merge before 16:26.</p>
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<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Thanks to all who put this together, it's great and I hope to
meet at AMRO soon :) </p>
<p>Since my name is now on the list below, I'll make minor
suggestions here and will be available to discuss further about
the workshop when it's accepted. </p>
<p>I like the changes suggested by Helen, and would like to add to
the answer about radical openness : it's about "opening up the
hardware and software and **keeping them open** by sharing the
knowledge on how stuff works ..." and "challenge the closed
box" </p>
<p>I put this one and the next answer in the doc, lines 161 and
169. </p>
<p>Best wishes, </p>
<p>Selena</p>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Selena Savic
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/01/2026 09:22, Helen Varley
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<p>i made some more changes & not sure how well they will
show up in the document so listing here:</p>
<p>line 47: "Systerserver is a network of ... " (rather than
"offers services to its network ... " to avoid the service
provider suggestion)</p>
<p>lines 143-5 - i've put in what i suggest, & we should add
if people should bring their laptop.</p>
<p>line 158-60 - i haven't added here, but think we should put
in something along the lines of my comment below.</p>
<p>lines 185-6 - should we add here where we are coming from?
i'd be travelling from munich.</p>
<p>might be good to add some additional information in that
final section? something about our community's interconnection
with many different groups & working to share FOSS skills
over a long period of time??</p>
<p>sorry i can't do more on this now, i did a lot of driving
today & then had an amazing time watching huge flocks of
shorebirds doing their evening murmurations & settling
down - i'm at this place: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://shorebirds.org.nz/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://shorebirds.org.nz/</a>
- & need to sleep now 🙂</p>
<p>good luck with getting the proposal submitted & fingers
crossed it's accepted!</p>
<p>h : )</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/16/26 10:19, Helen Varley
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<p>it looks great. a couple of comments:</p>
<p>in the question about whether specific basic skills are
required - it could be worded the other way around: "Some
prior technical knowledge will be helpful, but the
discussion will still be informative for Linux/network
beginners" - otherwise it sounds a bit off-putting. &
should participants bring a laptop? will it be a hands-on
workshop or more of a presentation?</p>
<p>after that, we need to answer the question "What does
"radically open" mean to you?" - i think it's very important
to answer this, as that's the heart of the festival. for
example, radically open for us means literally opening up
the hardware & software & getting into the guts of
it; it means knowing how stuff works, not just accepting a
closed box.</p>
<p>& "How do you F/LOSS?" - we need to answer how we
communicate our approach to open source - e.g. through our
long-standing community, shared learning experiences,
working together on the servers and tools/platforms, mailing
lists & workshops & being open to new people coming
in, giving workshops, presentations, book chapters, etc.</p>
<p>i'm travelling at the moment but will try to look again
later this evening (i'm in nz so that's friday morning in
europe)</p>
<p>h : )</p>
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<p>ok, i think i'm done on my side :) Is there any
opposition to send the proposal as systerserver? Or should
I send it only in my own name only?</p>
<p>I also noted the following group members:<br>
- ooooo<br>
- mara<br>
- Helen<br>
- Selena</p>
<p>are you all OK to be referenced as such? I guess it's
still possible to edit the list afterwards.</p>
<p>deadline is tomorrow around 16:00 CET.</p>
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<p>hey,</p>
<p>yes as i see from the notes, a participation to the
event isn't as consensual as i thought. But i'm still up
to propose the workshop.</p>
<p>about today's meeting, i will actually not be available
today... but i did prepare a draft application on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw?edit">the pad</a> so
if some of you are available, maybe you can meet without
me to read, discuss it? And if you feel like engaging
into its preparation, then we can either work by email
or catch up another day.</p>
<p>I will spend my thursday at my desk to work on such
things so we can maybe arrange a call in the afternoon?</p>
<p>:* </p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">hi ada, it was discussed
in meeting a bit AMRO<br>
see notes meeting<br>
we note you propose a meeting for propssal 14th -
tuesday - 16:00</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">which channel?</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">xm</div>
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<p>hi all,</p>
<p>thank you for enthusiastic replies! I've never been
to AMRO yet so I'd be even more glad to meet you all
there.<br>
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<p>Since I'm very bad at following up date polls in
general, I'd rather propose this:<br>
- I started filling and copypasting the form on <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw#">a pad</a> with
basic values;<br>
- we can arrange a meeting by the end of week (let's
say tuesday 16:00 CET unless we can arrange a more
consensual timeslot) to go deeper into our
intentions and the format we want to propose;<br>
- then by Jan 14th, we can review the application on
the pad so I can send it before the deadline (Jan
16th, 16:26 CET).</p>
<p>Any other suggestion? </p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 04/01/2026 à 13:32,
Selena Savic a écrit :<br>
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really great and it would be wonderful to have this
workshop there. I would also like to go this year
and plan to propose something with a friend from
Vienna. I would love to join this workshop. <br>
<br>
Kisses, <br>
<br>
Selena <br>
<br>
Selena Savic <br>
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On 03/01/2026 21:58, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">this is a great festival
& i would love to be there again - i'm
thinking about proposing something with UpStage
but haven't had a chance to think about it yet. i
don't know anything about vpn tunnelling but if
i'm there & there is anything systerserver
happening then i would of course join 🙂 <br>
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On 1/2/26 11:51, adalanerd wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone and happy new
year! <br>
<br>
Does anyone plan to apply to AMRO's CFP,
"becoming unreadable"? <a
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I think we should propose a feminist server
workshop there! <br>
My suggestion is to propose a session on
community VPN tunnelling because it'd fit the
topic quite well IMO. And it'd also be a nice
occasion to extend the existing networks and
improving docs. <br>
<br>
But I guess there are many other options, no? <br>
<br>
kisses, <br>
<br>
ada <br>
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