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    <p>i made some more changes & not sure how well they will show
      up in the document so listing here:</p>
    <p>line 47: "Systerserver is a network of ... " (rather than "offers
      services to its network ... " to avoid the service provider
      suggestion)</p>
    <p>lines 143-5 - i've put in what i suggest, & we should add if
      people should bring their laptop.</p>
    <p>line 158-60 - i haven't added here, but think we should put in
      something along the lines of my comment below.</p>
    <p>lines 185-6 - should we add here where we are coming from? i'd be
      travelling from munich.</p>
    <p>might be good to add some additional information in that final
      section? something about our community's interconnection with many
      different groups & working to share FOSS skills over a long
      period of time??</p>
    <p>sorry i can't do more on this now, i did a lot of driving today
      & then had an amazing time watching huge flocks of shorebirds
      doing their evening murmurations & settling down - i'm at this
      place: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://shorebirds.org.nz/">https://shorebirds.org.nz/</a> - & need to sleep now 🙂</p>
    <p>good luck with getting the proposal submitted & fingers
      crossed it's accepted!</p>
    <p>h : )</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/16/26 10:19, Helen Varley Jamieson
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      <p>it looks great. a couple of comments:</p>
      <p>in the question about whether specific basic skills are
        required - it could be worded the other way around: "Some prior
        technical knowledge will be helpful, but the discussion will
        still be informative for Linux/network beginners" - otherwise it
        sounds a bit off-putting. & should participants bring a
        laptop? will it be a hands-on workshop or more of a
        presentation?</p>
      <p>after that, we need to answer the question "What does
        "radically open" mean to you?" - i think it's very important to
        answer this, as that's the heart of the festival. for example,
        radically open for us means literally opening up the hardware
        & software & getting into the guts of it; it means
        knowing how stuff works, not just accepting a closed box.</p>
      <p>& "How do you F/LOSS?" - we need to answer how we
        communicate our approach to open source - e.g. through our
        long-standing community, shared learning experiences, working
        together on the servers and tools/platforms, mailing lists &
        workshops & being open to new people coming in, giving
        workshops, presentations, book chapters, etc.</p>
      <p>i'm travelling at the moment but will try to look again later
        this evening (i'm in nz so that's friday morning in europe)</p>
      <p>h : )</p>
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        <p>ok, i think i'm done on my side :) Is there any opposition to
          send the proposal as systerserver? Or should I send it only in
          my own name only?</p>
        <p>I also noted the following group members:<br>
          - ooooo<br>
          - mara<br>
          - Helen<br>
          - Selena</p>
        <p>are you all OK to be referenced as such? I guess it's still
          possible to edit the list afterwards.</p>
        <p>deadline is tomorrow around 16:00 CET.</p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 13/01/2026 à 10:29, adalanerd a
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          <p>hey,</p>
          <p>yes as i see from the notes, a participation to the event
            isn't as consensual as i thought. But i'm still up to
            propose the workshop.</p>
          <p>about today's meeting, i will actually not be available
            today... but i did prepare a draft application on <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw?edit">the
              pad</a> so if some of you are available, maybe you can
            meet without me to read, discuss it? And if you feel like
            engaging into its preparation, then we can either work by
            email or catch up another day.</p>
          <p>I will spend my thursday at my desk to work on such things
            so we can maybe arrange a call in the afternoon?</p>
          <p>:* </p>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 09/01/2026 à 18:11, ooooo a
            écrit :<br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">hi ada, it was  discussed in
              meeting a bit AMRO<br>
              see notes meeting<br>
              we note you propose a meeting for propssal 14th - tuesday
              - 16:00</div>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">which channel?</div>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">xm</div>
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              <p>hi all,</p>
              <p>thank you for enthusiastic replies! I've never been to
                AMRO yet so I'd be even more glad to meet you all there.<br>
              </p>
              <p>Since I'm very bad at following up date polls in
                general, I'd rather propose this:<br>
                - I started filling and copypasting the form on <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw#">a
                  pad</a> with basic values;<br>
                - we can arrange a meeting by the end of week (let's say
                tuesday 16:00 CET unless we can arrange a more
                consensual timeslot) to go deeper into our intentions
                and the format we want to propose;<br>
                - then by Jan 14th, we can review the application on the
                pad so I can send it before the deadline (Jan 16th,
                16:26 CET).</p>
              <p>Any other suggestion? </p>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 04/01/2026 à 13:32, Selena
                Savic a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:2f2c5462-c95c-40c4-a2a6-82cad6262c19@kucjica.org">AMRO is
                really great and it would be wonderful to have this
                workshop there. I would also like to go this year and
                plan to propose something with a friend from Vienna. I
                would love to join this workshop. <br>
                <br>
                Kisses, <br>
                <br>
                Selena <br>
                <br>
                Selena Savic <br>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pravi.me"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://pravi.me</a> <br>
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                On 03/01/2026 21:58, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote: <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">this is a great festival & i
                  would love to be there again - i'm thinking about
                  proposing something with UpStage but haven't had a
                  chance to think about it yet. i don't know anything
                  about vpn tunnelling but if i'm there & there is
                  anything systerserver happening then i would of course
                  join 🙂 <br>
                  <br>
                  On 1/2/26 11:51, adalanerd wrote: <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone and happy new
                    year! <br>
                    <br>
                    Does anyone plan to apply to AMRO's CFP, "becoming
                    unreadable"? <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://radical-openness.org/en/amro26-call-participation"
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                    <br>
                    <br>
                    I think we should propose a feminist server workshop
                    there! <br>
                    My suggestion is to propose a session on community
                    VPN tunnelling because it'd fit the topic quite well
                    IMO. And it'd also be a nice occasion to extend the
                    existing networks and improving docs. <br>
                    <br>
                    But I guess there are many other options, no? <br>
                    <br>
                    kisses, <br>
                    <br>
                    ada <br>
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