[Adminsysters] Fwd: servepub.net - building own infrastructure - meeting
nate wessalowski
wessalow at posteo.de
Mon May 22 22:03:36 CEST 2023
it was sent today, no? and i released it today...
On 5/22/23 20:11, mara wrote:
> the pre-meeting about the VPN support and raspberrypi workshop, with
> Winnie and others, is on the 31st May, see below..
>
> dunno if the email got through adminsysters moderation or lost in the
> old unreads, sorry for cross posting.
> m
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Adminsysters] Fwd: servepub.net - building own
> infrastructure
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 08:47:36 +0000
> From: Winnie Soon <w.soon at arts.ac.uk>
> To: mara <mara at multiplace.org>, Batool Desouky
> <batooldesouky at riseup.net>
> CC: info at systerserver.net <info at systerserver.net>,
> hmryan.esq at gmail.com <hmryan.esq at gmail.com>, cua at cc.au.dk
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all your vote.
>
> So the pre-meeting will be scheduled on 31 May from 10.00-11.00 (UK Time)
>
> We will meet here: https://bbb.constantvzw.org/b/win-eyy-xpr-gw1
> <https://bbb.constantvzw.org/b/win-eyy-xpr-gw1>
>
> The agenda of the meeting is to first know each other briefly, and to
> confirm the scope of the hybrid workshop on the 26 Jun.
>
> other info:
> pad note: https://ctp.cc.au.dk/pad/p/servpub
> <https://ctp.cc.au.dk/pad/p/servpub>
> workshop details: https://www.centreforthestudyof.net/?p=7032
> <https://www.centreforthestudyof.net/?p=7032>
>
> I will send a calendar invite later.
>
> thanks
>
> best,
> Winnie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Winnie Soon <w.soon at arts.ac.uk>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 12, 2023 4:03 PM
> *To:* mara <mara at multiplace.org>; Batool Desouky
> <batooldesouky at riseup.net>
> *Cc:* info at systerserver.net <info at systerserver.net>;
> hmryan.esq at gmail.com <hmryan.esq at gmail.com>; cua at cc.au.dk
> <cua at cc.au.dk>; romainbiros at gmail.com <romainbiros at gmail.com>;
> geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk <geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk>; sunniliao at gmail.com
> <sunniliao at gmail.com>; cellarspoon at riseup.net
> <cellarspoon at riseup.net>; katietindle at gmail.com <katietindle at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Adminsysters] Fwd: servepub.net - building own
> infrastructure
> Hi all,
>
> Systerserver has confirmed to join the 26th Jun workshop.
>
> Forthcoming workshop details:
>
> +++
> *Date:* Monday 26 June,
> *Time:* 12.00-17.00 (Hybrid).
> *Physical Location: * Creative Computing Institue, University of the
> Arts London - 45-65 Peckham Rd, London SE5 8UF (5/F)
> *Online:* TBC
> +++
>
> So it is now confirmed by all parties:, and thanks for everyone input
> regarding the suggestion to simplify the workshop. This is not a
> workshop that we plan to do everything in 5 hours from network
> concepts to implementation with the Pis. But to make the 5 hours
> intro-workshop more productive for every collective/individuals to be
> on the same page and know what to do next, perhaps we should arrange a
> pre-meeting before to finalize the scope/content/expectation for the
> workshop?
>
> *We have made a doodle, please vote by end of next week.
> *
> *https://doodle.com/meeting/organize/id/e5RvyjBa
> <https://doodle.com/meeting/organize/id/e5RvyjBa>*
>
> We have also created a pad to keep notes and resources:
> https://ctp.cc.au.dk/pad/p/servpub
> <https://ctp.cc.au.dk/pad/p/servpub>, feel free to add/modify.
>
> Thanks
>
> best,
> Winnie + Geoff + Christian
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* mara <mara at multiplace.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 3, 2023 9:31 AM
> *To:* Batool Desouky <batooldesouky at riseup.net>; Winnie Soon
> <w.soon at arts.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* info at systerserver.net <info at systerserver.net>;
> hmryan.esq at gmail.com <hmryan.esq at gmail.com>; cua at cc.au.dk
> <cua at cc.au.dk>; romainbiros at gmail.com <romainbiros at gmail.com>;
> geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk <geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk>; sunniliao at gmail.com
> <sunniliao at gmail.com>; cellarspoon at riseup.net
> <cellarspoon at riseup.net>; katietindle at gmail.com <katietindle at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Adminsysters] Fwd: servepub.net - building own
> infrastructure
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for the invitation, and sorry for late response as we are
> preparing for the feminist federation week long event in Barcelona
> starting next Monday. As Winnie is joining we will have the occasion to
> talk a bit more about the servepub project and the dependencies, since
> we didn't have a meeting with you before.
>
> We understand that in order to circumvent rigid university networks, an
> external public server could play the role of an access point to a
> closed network (proxy). Systerserver has two public servers and we could
> install a VPN in one of these to serve as a public access to your
> raspberry-pi.
> Since you will have two raspberry-pies, you also need to think of two
> subdomains.
> However keep in mind that this setting involves long-term maintenance
> and support for you and for us.
>
> We need to also get the green light from mur.at, where we host our
> servers, and a general consensus from the close community of
> Systerserver.
>
> Moreover, we feel that doing everything in one day workshop (pi setup
> and VPN) would not prove fruitful in terms of learning. Network
> interfaces and VPN has a complexity and a steep learning curve.
>
> Here I would like to point to two of my manuals about VPN, that can help
> prior to the workshop.
>
> screen versions
> how to intall a VPN on single board computer and make it portable:
> https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/rosa_beta_25_jan_23.pdf
> <https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/rosa_beta_25_jan_23.pdf>
>
> intorduction to what is a VPN:
> https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/fanzine-VPN-screen-en.pdf
> <https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/fanzine-VPN-screen-en.pdf>
>
> booklet print
> https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/fanzine-VPN-print-en.pdf
> <https://psaroskalazines.gr/pdf/fanzine-VPN-print-en.pdf>
>
> best wishes,
> Mara
>
>
> On 4/28/23 14:20, Batool Desouky wrote:
>> Hi Winnie, hi all!
>>
>> This is all very exciting -- thank you Winnie for putting it in motion.
>>
>> As far as dates are concerned, the 26th can work for some of us,
>> though it would probably be easier if it were in the evening as some
>> people are at work in the morning. If this is not possible as it will
>> probably be a long session, then the next best option would be a
>> weekend day but I understand that thats not easy if we're trying to
>> get a space on campus.
>>
>> Either way the 26th can work for a few of us so it's fine if that's
>> the best day for everyone else.
>>
>> As for the server maintenance, yes potentially some in-grid members
>> (myself included) would be able to do that depending on availability
>> and capacity.
>>
>> We're happy to have a pre-meeting online soon to take about details
>> of the day.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Batool
>>
>> On 2023-04-26 11:59, Winnie Soon wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Luke for your reply and your support 🙂 Yes we can definitely
>>> arrange a physical space in the UK ideally at CCI, UAL.
>>> May be @In-grid/@Systerserver: Would you be able to get back if you
>>> are available on the 26 Jun? Confirming the date would be helpful to
>>> room booking and Luke to book transport. Details we can arrange in
>>> terms of the content.
>>> I am also thinking once we all confirm the date/time, then we could
>>> have a pre-meeting online so as to decide how to make the workshop
>>> more effective, in terms of what the preparation would be for each
>>> group, etc.
>>> In-grid would be potentially set it up and initial maintain this. We
>>> will pass the Pis to them soon so that they can prepare that. But
>>> Geoff/Me/Christian would be also involved in maintaining it as well
>>> and we might able to bring students / research assistant to involve
>>> in the maintenance.
>>> Thanks all.
>>> best,
>>> Winnie
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* cellarspoon at riseup.net <cellarspoon at riseup.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2023 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* Winnie Soon <w.soon at arts.ac.uk>; info at systerserver.net
>>> <info at systerserver.net>; batooldesouky at riseup.net
>>> <batooldesouky at riseup.net>; hmryan.esq at gmail.com
>>> <hmryan.esq at gmail.com>; romainbiros at gmail.com
>>> <romainbiros at gmail.com>; sunniliao at gmail.com <sunniliao at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* cua at cc.au.dk <cua at cc.au.dk>; geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk
>>> <geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: servepub.net - building own infrastructure
>>> Hey all!
>>>
>>> This sounds pretty exciting!
>>>
>>> I'm personally interested to attend in person if a physical space will
>>> be organised and use the 250 GBP budget to cover costs. Had been
>>> planning to visit London in anyway... if you can let me know asap I can
>>> try get cheap trains/boats organised.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to participate in whatever task division is set up. I think
>>> the process looks covered in the 1 through 5. I'm not sure on the order
>>> of things and also what In-grid / Systerserver folks would prefer to
>>> do?
>>>
>>> And for the 2 hr presentation, is this a space to work on the 1-5 tasks
>>> or just a more general present/discuss moment about self-hosting /
>>> maintenance / etc. or?
>>>
>>> I can imagine doing some hands on review / exploration of fundamentals
>>> might be beneficial? We wrote some stuff with Varia and friends some
>>> time ago https://homebrewserver.club/category/fundamentals.html
> <https://homebrewserver.club/category/fundamentals.html>
>>> <https://homebrewserver.club/category/fundamentals.html
> <https://homebrewserver.club/category/fundamentals.html>>
>>>
>>> Some further thoughts:
>>>
>>> - Do we know who will be taking care of this going forward? Will they
>>> be able to physically attend? That would be best to increase the
>>> chances that there is a good "handover"
>>>
>>> - I think there is a delicate balance to think through with
>>> Systerserver/In-grid/Autonomic preparing the system beforehand and
>>> having the long-term maintainers of this system involved in its
>>> creation from the start. I've seen several projects being handed off
>>> and more or less overwhelming the new folks trying to pick things up.
>>> For example, getting into system adminstration is not trivial and
>>> things like VPN networks are hard. I realise this is a necessity re:
>>> academic networks but it might be worth considering "less is more" for
>>> the initial phase? To maximise involvement of those will continue this
>>> project. Up to you all.
>>>
>>> - Writing documentation is a pretty good way to learn together. Is
>>> there some common platform we can do that on the day? This could even
>>> happen on the servers themselves which is also a way to get familiar
>>> with logging in / using / etc.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Luke
>>>
>>> PS. Sending from my personal mail as I'm actually currently in the
>>> process of leaving Autonomic atm but we've decided that I can run with
>>> this project 🙂 Autonomic will be in touch on another thread about
>>> working together too though!
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2023-04-25 at 16:01 +0200, Autonomic Co-op wrote:
>>> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> > From: Winnie Soon <w.soon at arts.ac.uk>
>>> > To: Autonomic Co-op <helo at autonomic.zone>, info at systerserver.net
>>> > <info at systerserver.net>, Batool Desouky <batooldesouky at riseup.net>,
>>> > HM
>>> > Ryan <hmryan.esq at gmail.com>, romainbiros at gmail.com
>>> > <romainbiros at gmail.com>, sunniliao at gmail.com <sunniliao at gmail.com>
>>> > Cc: Christian Ulrik Andersen <cua at cc.au.dk>, geoffcox
>>> > <geoffcox at lsbu.ac.uk>
>>> > Subject: servepub.net - building own infrastructure
>>> > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 10:22:24 +0000
>>> >
>>> > Dear In-grid, Systerserver and Autonomic,
>>> >
>>> > First of all, thanks so much for supporting this project. As
>>> > discussed
>>> > briefly, we (Geoff (LSBU), Christian (Aarhus University) and Winnie
>>> > (CCI, UAL) ) would like to organize a workshop gather different
>>> > communities (In-grid:
>>> > https://www.in-grid.io/ <https://www.in-grid.io/>
> <https://www.in-grid.io/ <https://www.in-grid.io/>>, Autonomic:
>>> https://autonomic.zone/ <https://autonomic.zone/>
> <https://autonomic.zone/ <https://autonomic.zone/>>,
>>> > Systerserver: https://systerserver.net/) <https://systerserver.net/)>
>>> <https://systerserver.net/ <https://systerserver.net/>)> to learn
> collectively,
>>> > discuss
>>> > issues, and more importantly to build alliances in working
>>> > alternative
>>> > infrastructures.
>>> >
>>> > We are able to offer a small fee of £250 for each group for this
>>> > workshop (sorry it's not more but it gets things started). The
>>> > workshop
>>> > would be hybrid as we don't have resources set aside for travel etc,
>>> > but those of us in London would ideally get together in the same
>>> > space.
>>> >
>>> > Our main aim is to build two Raspberry Pis , where one is to act as
>>> > the
>>> > main server and documentation of code/upgrade/system admin works,
>>> > etc:
>>> > with a web server, media wiki and gitea installed (would be
>>> > physically
>>> > located at CCI primarily and can be remotely access to it). The other
>>> > Pi would be more mobile that include wiki2print (developed by Varia)
>>> > for the upcoming issue of our journal APRJA (but connect to the main
>>> > server).
>>> >
>>> > So to kick start with this process "we think" the following is what
>>> > we
>>> > need to cover (we are not expert in this area, so your help/input
>>> > would
>>> > be appreciated):
>>> >
>>> > 1. Flashing and bootstrapping the raspberry Pis (Autonomic)
>>> > 2. web server (Nginx) configuration, SSH access (Autonomic)
>>> > 3. bash script (for upgrade/server maintenance/reuse the code for
>>> > other
>>> > Pi in future) (Autonomic)
>>> > 4. Purchase of domain, settings of DNS, Public IP and network
>>> > configuration, and sub domain for the Pi (Systerserver)
>>> > 5. To deal with university VPN > TInc setup (Systerserver)
>>> > 6. Maybe more... so we need your input (anything you think we should
>>> > know)
>>> >
>>> > So we want to organize a workshop where you can help sharing the
>>> > skills/ideas, tentatively:
>>> >
>>> > - 15 mins: Geoff/Winnie/Christian: intro and context
>>> > - 15 mins: In-grid: intro and as a group
>>> > - 2 hours: presentation by Autonomic + discussion
>>> > - 30 mins: break
>>> > - 2 hours: presentation by Systerserver + discussion
>>> >
>>> > We'd like to suggest a tentative date for this: Monday 26 June,
>>> > 12.00-
>>> > 17.00 (ONLINE).
>>> >
>>> > We understand it is not a workshop where we can learn everything in
>>> > just 5 hours because system admin or system configuration is a
>>> > specialized area, but we hope that this is a starting point to get
>>> > things going as a collective effort. Once the servers are set up
>>> > (primarily by in-grid) we would migrate what Varia have been
>>> > developing
>>> > at the next stage (wiki2print).
>>> >
>>> > @In-grid, we can also make it hybrid and for those in London we can
>>> > gather together either in CCI or LSBU (more to be confirmed).
>>> >
>>> > Let us know if this is feasible for you all, and if you have any
>>> > things
>>> > to add, please share :)
>>> >
>>> > best,
>>> > Geoff + Christian + Winnie
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Winnie Soon (🌈 they/them)
>>> >
>>> > Course Leader & Senior Lecturer, MA/MSc Computing and Creative
>>> > Industry
>>> > (Modular)
>>> >
>>> > UAL Creative Computing Institute (CCI)
>>> >
>>> > Web:
>>> [https://www.siusoon.net<https://twitter.com/decolonisator>]https://www.siusoon.net<https://twitter.com/decolonisator>
>>> <[https://www.siusoon.net<https://twitter.com/decolonisator]https://www.siusoon.net<https://twitter.com/decolonisator>>
>>>
>>> > <https://twitter.com/decolonisator
>>> <https://twitter.com/decolonisator
>>> <https://twitter.com/decolonisator>>>
>>> >
>>> > Mastodon:
>>> > post.lurk.org/@siusoon<https://siusoon.net/post.lurk.org/@siusoon>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Recent exhibition/publication:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Data Relations (until 19 Mar 2023), Australian Centre for
>>> > Contemporary Art: https://acca.melbourne/exhibition/data-relations/
> <https://acca.melbourne/exhibition/data-relations/>
>>> <https://acca.melbourne/exhibition/data-relations/
> <https://acca.melbourne/exhibition/data-relations/>>
>>> >
>>> > <http://www.arts.ac.uk/cci <http://www.arts.ac.uk/cci
>>> <http://www.arts.ac.uk/cci>>>2. Soon. W.,
>>> (2023). Writing an Article as
>>> > if Writing a Piece of Software. Toward a Minor Tech (Peer-reviewed
>>> > newspaper), 12(1). Christian Ulrik Andersen, Geoff Cox (eds.). link:
>>> >
>>> https://darc.au.dk/fileadmin/DARC/newspapers/toward-a-minor-tech-online-sm.pdf
>>
> <https://darc.au.dk/fileadmin/DARC/newspapers/toward-a-minor-tech-online-sm.pdf>
>
>>> <https://darc.au.dk/fileadmin/DARC/newspapers/toward-a-minor-tech-online-sm.pdf
>>
> <https://darc.au.dk/fileadmin/DARC/newspapers/toward-a-minor-tech-online-sm.pdf>>
>
>>> >
>>> > 3. Soon, W., & Valesco, P. (2023). "(De)constructing Machines as
>>> > Critical Technical Practice". Convergence: The International Journal
>>> > of
>>> > Research into New Media Technologies
>>> >
>>> > 4. Soon, W. (2023). "Queering Code Manual".Them all, Magazine.
>>> > Retrieved from http://www.them-all-magazine.com/winniesoon
> <http://www.them-all-magazine.com/winniesoon>
>>> <http://www.them-all-magazine.com/winniesoon
> <http://www.them-all-magazine.com/winniesoon>>
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