[Adminsysters] [Mitglieder Info] [wichtig] Update zur aktuellen Situation bei mur.at

Thu May 9 16:02:53 CEST 2024

Sure,

fine, no need to actually discuss - if you think their good to have than 
I won't argue they're not :).

I might, on the other hand, just unsubscribe since my only reason to be 
here is my being involved with systerserver.town and we have a separate 
list for that. No bad feelings!

(By the way: We'd love to see more users over there - if you have any 
questions or need help, please get in touch!)

Hope to see lots of you at /etc!

Best,
Anne

Am 09.05.24 um 14:59 schrieb Helen Varley Jamieson:
> i agree with donna - these emails are usually about maintenance outages 
> or other issues with the mur.at servers, email, etc. & so it is quite 
> important that they do still come to us, even if we rarely read them.
> 
> this particular issue of internal conflict has never come up before. as 
> i understand it, the board members have dealt with it & resolved it, and 
> are simply being transparent about the processes so that there is no 
> need for rumour & speculation in the community.
> 
> i would expect the mailing list to go back to its normal low volume of 
> server-related announcements; sometimes individuals reply to the list 
> with thanks or questions but in the past this hasn't been a big amount & 
> in the interests of ensuring that we're aware of any outages etc i think 
> it's easy enough to just delete them, rather than unsub from the list.
> 
> h : )
> 
> On 09.05.24 11:13, Donna wrote:
>> I think it's interesting to know what is happening on the network in 
>> which our servers are hosted. I've never seen a thread this long on 
>> their mailing list so perhaps this is an outlier and we should wait? 
>> If it happen's a second time then I think we should unsub en give 
>> people a link to the mailing list if they want to be kept in the loop 
>> of mur.at admin things.
>>
>> On 08/05/2024 22:42, Anne Roth wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was thinking all the mur.at-mails, yes. Unless someone wants or 
>>> needs to read them?
>>>
>>> Anne
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 08.05.24 um 22:34 schrieb ¬ `:
>>>> good evening ]]
>>>>
>>>> i approved these emails manually.
>>>>
>>>> @Anne, when you say 'these mails', what do you mean? all mur.at 
>>>> member emails?
>>>> we could devise a protocol or opt out from receiving those if 
>>>> possible, cause going though them is also extra work and if no one 
>>>> wants to see them then there is no point.
>>>>
>>>> vims,
>>>> _ezn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _____ EOM
>>>> ¬` vo ezn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 at 10:26 PM, Gaba <gaba at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/8/24 16:41, Anne Roth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to suggest that these mails don't get sent to all of 
>>>>>> us -
>>>>>> is there a way? Or is there a specific purpose why it's handled 
>>>>>> this way?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is the first time it happens. Can you give us a summary of the
>>>>> translation of what this is about? :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07.05.24 um 18:40 schrieb Anto Manhartsberger:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Liebe mur.at-Mitglieder,
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Hiermit melden wir uns mit einem Update zur aktuellen Situation bei
>>>>>>> mur.at. Seit längere Zeit schwelte ein Konflikt zwischen unseren
>>>>>>> Mitarbeitern Andreas und Ralph. Am 9. April eskalierte dieser
>>>>>>> Konflikt und es kam zu Handgreiflichkeiten. Andreas erstattete
>>>>>>> Anzeige gegen Ralph. Da niemand vom Präsidium anwesend war, wollen
>>>>>>> und können wir uns dazu nicht näher äußern. Eine Klärung der
>>>>>>> Konfliktsituation ist uns natürlich dennoch wichtig.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> In den Wochen seit der Eskalation sind wir im Präsidium bemüht, eine
>>>>>>> Lösung derGesamtsituation zu finden. Nach eingehender Diskussion und
>>>>>>> Gesprächen mit allen Beteiligtenhaben wir uns dazu entschieden, die
>>>>>>> Dienstverhältnisse mit Andreas und Ralph in gegenseitigem
>>>>>>> Einverständnis aufzulösen, weil die Vertrauensbasis sowohl im Team
>>>>>>> als auch zwischen Team und Präsidium nicht mehr gegeben ist und wir
>>>>>>> unbedingt das Weiterbestehen des Vereins sichern wollen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Wir möchten bei der kommenden Generalversammlung gemeinsam mit allen
>>>>>>> Mitgliedern über diese Vorkommnisse reflektieren und überlegen,
>>>>>>> welche Konsequenzen sich daraus für die weitere Arbeit von mur.at
>>>>>>> ergeben. Daher freuen wir uns über eine rege Teilnahme: GV am 11.
>>>>>>> Juni 18h im Forum Stadtpark - Salon
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Viele Grüße vom Präsidium,
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Jogi, Maggie und Anto
>>>>>>>
>>>>
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