[Adminsysters] about fiscal hosts - open collective - POLL
bolwerK
info at ooooo.be
Mon Jan 2 11:52:40 CET 2023
Here we are 2023 **!
Whises and prosperities/
We are in favour to open an account in Europe and be an admin.
Here is a poll to understand who also supports the idea: [fill in
before 31/01/2023 ]
https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=DNCtObLFLgOISLjF
<https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=DNCtObLFLgOISLjF>
Indicate in the comments if you wanna be an admin.
We also still have 550 euro on our personal account which should be
allocated to systerserver's sysadmin/infrastructure
The easiest would be that we buy 2 harddrives for 'jean' machine,
contribute to digital ocean in the meanwhile (Systertown) and transfer
the rest of the money to the Opencollective account for other costs - In
Europe - we are having.
toedeloe,
xm
On 06/12/2022 02:01, Gaba wrote:
> In the last meeting we discuss open collective and I committed to read
> about the difference on fiscal hosts and to send information to the list.
>
> There is information in this page about the difference of hosts:
> https://docs.opencollective.com/help/fiscal-hosts/fiscal-hosts
>
> There is not a specific difference between US and European fiscal
> host. The difference is by fiscal host in general.
>
> For the open collective fiscal host in Europe
> (https://opencollective.com/europe and
> https://docs.opencollective.com/oceurope/)
>
> - fee is around 6%
> - "We are only able to host EU-based projects and fund EU-based
> activity, not overseas expenses." <-- this may mean they can not pay
> digital ocean for example.
> - "Your project's mission must fit with the Association's mission
> overall."
>
> Their requirements are
> Activities must align with our mission & impact areas ->> it may fit
> in "Develop tools to improve civic participation within cities or
> communities: Sponsor sponsors projects aimed at fostering civic
> participation, democratic debate and rebuilding community ties and
> strengths."
> Activities must be charitable, to benefit and open to the public
> Collective must have no separate legal existence/entity from OC Europe
> Collective must have a *minimum*of two admins/team members. Admins
> must use their real name.
> https://docs.opencollective.com/oceurope/getting-started/eligibility
>
>
> On 12/3/22 15:23, Gaba wrote:
>> On 12/3/22 04:40, bolwerK wrote:
>>> hi great
>>> to have an overview
>>> let's do it :
>>>
>>> - we would opt for /2/ FISCAL HOST
>>> as we can forward funds, donations into the open collective and
>>> reimburse people+ attribute fees.
>>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>>
>>> - we think it is important it is in Europe - for dunds and we wonder
>>> if it is easy to demand with a fiscal hosts funds and get them
>>> transfered to the open collective account.
>>
>>
>> Yes. If we are moving systerserver.town to mur.at then it would be
>> good to have this funds in Europe as it will be much easier to
>> transfer funds to pay for donations in mur.at. If we keep it in
>> digital ocean then it may be better to have the funds in the US. But
>> this is something to check.
>>
>>>
>>> -name - ? do we refer to systerserver - or do we have 'another name'
>>> which can hosts different servers/sysadmins costs & fees. e.g.
>>> SYSADMIN!Unite
>>> It would be great more independent sysadmins who wants to work on
>>> the feminist servers can join.
>>>
>> Good question. I do not know.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> xm
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/12/2022 19:42, Gaba wrote:
>>>> On 12/1/22 17:01, Gaba wrote:
>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the information about open collective that I got from
>>>>> their documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> To create an account
>>>>> (https://docs.opencollective.com/help/collectives/create-collective)
>>>>> we will need to have individual accounts that manage the
>>>>> collective page in opencollective.com. We need to make a decision
>>>>> if to have a fiscal host (pay a fee but no need for bank account)
>>>>> or go independent (no fee but need a bank account).
>>>>>
>>>>> Two options:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Independent collective:
>>>>> 1. Unlimited access to all features
>>>>> 2. No fees if we hold money in your own bank account
>>>>> 3. We would need to see how taxes work here.
>>>>> 2. Through a fiscal host:
>>>>> 1. Unlimited access to all features
>>>>> 2. A fiscal host is an organization that welcomes others to
>>>>> operate
>>>>> through their structure, so projects can use the host’s legal
>>>>> entity and bank account instead of setting up their own. The
>>>>> host provides administrative services, oversight, and support
>>>>> 3. Fees depend on who is the fiscal host. It could be 10%, 5%
>>>>> or 0%
>>>>> 4. Tax-exempt or charity status
>>>>> 5. Options for fiscal hosts:
>>>>> https://opencollective.com/search?isHost=true
>>>>> 1. Open Collective Europe hosts 363 collectives (for example
>>>>> host lurk.org and mastodon.world) :
>>>>> https://opencollective.com/europe
>>>>> 2. Open Collective US hosts 3384 collectives (mostly open
>>>>> source projects, for example mastodon):
>>>>> https://opencollective.com/opensource
>>>>> 3. Fiscal hosts for mastodon projects
>>>>> https://opencollective.com/search?q=mastodon . Some of this
>>>>> projects are on their own and some have other fiscal hosts
>>>>> like Accountable
>>>>> https://opencollective.com/the-social-change-nest
>>>>>
>>>>> To pay people: Money contributed to a Collective goes to the bank
>>>>> account of the fiscal host. When someone wants to be paid, they
>>>>> submit the expense through the collective page in the open
>>>>> collective website. After one of us approve it, the person is
>>>>> reimbursed via PayPal. "Expenses are visible publicly, so everyone
>>>>> can see how much money was spent and on what (though private
>>>>> details like emails, names, and addresses are only visible to that
>>>>> user and the admins)."
>>>>> https://docs.opencollective.com/help/collectives/collectives
>>>>>
>>>>> About expenses:
>>>>> https://docs.opencollective.com/help/collectives/expenses
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More resources on running instances
>>>> https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/wiki/Collectively-owned-instances#resources-on-running-an-instance
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> gaba
>>>>>
>>>>>
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