[Adminsysters] Who are we?

Gaba gaba at riseup.net
Sun Jan 8 23:12:59 CET 2023 

On 1/9/23 10:54, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
> hi everyone,
>
> i have finally had a look at the etherpad  & made some small changes. 
> in general the language of the last 2 paragraphs seems a bit 
> unnecessarily complex, which means it may not be very accessible to 
> people who don't have english as a first language or who are not 
> familiar with the kind of language and phrasing being used.
>
> i've made a simpler suggestion for the last sentence of the 
> second-last paragraph, and would like to rewrite the last paragraph 
> but first to consult on what is actually trying to be said here. i 
> think it is simply that the making, maintaining and financing of 
> systerserver.net is done by us collectively. we've already talked 
> about working with open source so is it necessary to repeat so much 
> here? i find it pretty difficult to read and easily understand that 
> last paragraph myself ...

Thanks Helen!  I agree with the changes on making it easier to read.

>
> h : )
>
> On 08.01.23 13:28, Gaba wrote:
>> On 12/16/22 01:41, bolwerK wrote:
>>> Thanks mara for making the pad - and all the contributions.
>>>
>>> We do understand to write a collective text is an intense process 
>>> and we were involved some sessions (_when is the next one?_) and had 
>>> good discussions.
>>> With this 'about page', we feel that it is about  systerserver - and 
>>> not about the Instance Systertown, which has a different genealogy 
>>> and maybe intent.
>>>
>>> If about is about systerserver, also with the vocabulary used in the 
>>> last paragraph, we can't identify . 
>>> Prosumers/consumers/services/utilities.... in the last year(s) we 
>>> did a bit of more speculative and imaginative voicing of our 
>>> praxis.  Here are is a blogpost we are currently publishing ... in 
>>> which we were asked to define us and our activities..; at the bottom 
>>> you also have the radio interview with mur.at 
>>> https://zoiahorn.anarchaserver.org/a-fair-new-idea-a-feminist-video-streaming-platform/ 
>>> and we lso like the text mara was pasting in the pad.
>>>
>>> Also to coin the 'earliest know feminist server' is pretentious and 
>>> arrogant for me - taking a quiet colonial stance,  [who knows].
>>
>>
>> Are we ok with this last paragraph from systerserver for who we are? 
>> bolwerk: can you incorporate the changes you are proposing into the 
>> text?
>>
>> If that is fine then I will add it [0] to the systerserver.town site
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> gaba
>>
>> [0] pad in https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about
>>
>>
>>>
>>> xm
>>>
>>> On 15/12/2022 12:31, mara wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> I made a pad to edit the _about_.
>>>> https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Nancy for your contribution.
>>>> Some thoughts:
>>>> The text below, misses parts about trans rights. In an interview 
>>>> with MELT last spring, and now in the editing process of the 
>>>> interview to prepare it for publication, we received feedback 
>>>> telling that our trans inclusion is not visible. I can forward 
>>>> their feedback here. So good to reflect on that.
>>>> The text below also refers to the colonial language in IT, but 
>>>> doesn't tell how is circumvented or subverted to adele/jean naming. 
>>>> if we include it we need to make that link visible, I feel.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover the current sysadmins of systerserver, me including, we 
>>>> try to avoid the use "services" in our vocabulary, and we haven't 
>>>> used the term "prosumers". So there is terminology that needs more 
>>>> reflection of the current narrations we have been using in our 
>>>> communications with artists, activists and institutions. I have 
>>>> included in the pad as an inspiration, a recent summary that we 
>>>> wrote for a fund to do some peertube workshops.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> m
>>>>
>>>> On 12/15/22 05:15, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>>>> this sounds good to me. one typo, near the end of the second 
>>>>> paragraph it should be "and other life forms *is* imporant to ... 
>>>>> " (not I)
>>>>>
>>>>> also waving from the southern hemisphere, in the midst of 
>>>>> moving-in-to-new-home chaos 😁
>>>>>
>>>>> h : )
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13.12.22 16:41, Nancy Mauro-Flude wrote:
>>>>>> HI Anne / All
>>>>>>
>>>>>> offering forth some text for 'about page'  feel free to tweak:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The earliest known feminist web server collective is 
>>>>>> SysterServer.net launched on International Womxn’s Day, 8 March 
>>>>>> 2005, as an initiative of the Gender Changer Academy. The 
>>>>>> SysterServer.net offers services to feminist, queer and 
>>>>>> antipatriarchal groups and collectives. It provides an autonomous 
>>>>>> repository of resources and digital literacy support to womxn 
>>>>>> where it was, and still is, partially seeded from the Open Source 
>>>>>> and Free Software movements, which seek to incorporate principles 
>>>>>> of freedom in sharing information and source code for others to 
>>>>>> modify and extend to better suit holistic predilections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first web server of SysterServer.net was lovingly named Jean. 
>>>>>> The act of renaming the hardware webservers as Adele and Jean is 
>>>>>> contrary to heavily prescribed trajectories and metaphors in IT 
>>>>>> language, such as ‘Master and Slave’, which was once typical when 
>>>>>> referring to computational hardware drives.  Attending to the 
>>>>>> persuasive power of metaphors and languages, as well as materials 
>>>>>> and bodies, that then script bio-socio-political life of humans 
>>>>>> and other life forms I important to SysterServer.net and feminist 
>>>>>> internet frontier allies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The implementation of technical utilities and the related costs 
>>>>>> involved are conferred, administered, and maintained 
>>>>>> cooperatively with peers. In this way, feminist web servers are 
>>>>>> built, installed, co-designed, maintained, and autonomously 
>>>>>> determined by an intimate community of ‘prosumers’ which bestows 
>>>>>> agency to the hands-on procedures beyond a typical consumer of 
>>>>>> off-the-shelf computational client user service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Wishes from the southern hemisphere
>>>>>> Nancy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/12/2022 10:53, Anne Roth wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agreed to help write a short draft for the 'about page' of
>>>>>>> systerserver.town, explaining a little who runs it and what it's 
>>>>>>> for,
>>>>>>> and what it isn't for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since it's a project by the systerserver collective I thought I'd
>>>>>>> start by describing what and who this group is, maybe by taking it
>>>>>>> from something that's been written before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is quite concise https://systerserver.net/ which is totally 
>>>>>>> fine
>>>>>>> but is there more anywhere? Do you have pieces of text that was 
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> for anything maybe? If not that's just as well, it doesn't have 
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> long at all. But if yes that would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> helen varley jamieson
>>>>>
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