[Adminsysters] Who are we?

Sun Jan 8 22:54:36 CET 2023

hi everyone,

i have finally had a look at the etherpad  & made some small changes. in 
general the language of the last 2 paragraphs seems a bit unnecessarily 
complex, which means it may not be very accessible to people who don't 
have english as a first language or who are not familiar with the kind 
of language and phrasing being used.

i've made a simpler suggestion for the last sentence of the second-last 
paragraph, and would like to rewrite the last paragraph but first to 
consult on what is actually trying to be said here. i think it is simply 
that the making, maintaining and financing of systerserver.net is done 
by us collectively. we've already talked about working with open source 
so is it necessary to repeat so much here? i find it pretty difficult to 
read and easily understand that last paragraph myself ...

h : )

On 08.01.23 13:28, Gaba wrote:
> On 12/16/22 01:41, bolwerK wrote:
>> Thanks mara for making the pad - and all the contributions.
>>
>> We do understand to write a collective text is an intense process and 
>> we were involved some sessions (_when is the next one?_) and had good 
>> discussions.
>> With this 'about page', we feel that it is about  systerserver - and 
>> not about the Instance Systertown, which has a different genealogy 
>> and maybe intent.
>>
>> If about is about systerserver, also with the vocabulary used in the 
>> last paragraph, we can't identify . 
>> Prosumers/consumers/services/utilities.... in the last year(s) we did 
>> a bit of more speculative and imaginative voicing of our praxis.  
>> Here are is a blogpost we are currently publishing ... in which we 
>> were asked to define us and our activities..; at the bottom you also 
>> have the radio interview with mur.at 
>> https://zoiahorn.anarchaserver.org/a-fair-new-idea-a-feminist-video-streaming-platform/ 
>> and we lso like the text mara was pasting in the pad.
>>
>> Also to coin the 'earliest know feminist server' is pretentious and 
>> arrogant for me - taking a quiet colonial stance,  [who knows].
>
>
> Are we ok with this last paragraph from systerserver for who we are? 
> bolwerk: can you incorporate the changes you are proposing into the text?
>
> If that is fine then I will add it [0] to the systerserver.town site
>
> cheers,
>
> gaba
>
> [0] pad in https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about
>
>
>>
>> xm
>>
>> On 15/12/2022 12:31, mara wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I made a pad to edit the _about_.
>>> https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/systerserver-about
>>>
>>> Thank you Nancy for your contribution.
>>> Some thoughts:
>>> The text below, misses parts about trans rights. In an interview 
>>> with MELT last spring, and now in the editing process of the 
>>> interview to prepare it for publication, we received feedback 
>>> telling that our trans inclusion is not visible. I can forward their 
>>> feedback here. So good to reflect on that.
>>> The text below also refers to the colonial language in IT, but 
>>> doesn't tell how is circumvented or subverted to adele/jean naming. 
>>> if we include it we need to make that link visible, I feel.
>>>
>>> Moreover the current sysadmins of systerserver, me including, we try 
>>> to avoid the use "services" in our vocabulary, and we haven't used 
>>> the term "prosumers". So there is terminology that needs more 
>>> reflection of the current narrations we have been using in our 
>>> communications with artists, activists and institutions. I have 
>>> included in the pad as an inspiration, a recent summary that we 
>>> wrote for a fund to do some peertube workshops.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> m
>>>
>>> On 12/15/22 05:15, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>>> this sounds good to me. one typo, near the end of the second 
>>>> paragraph it should be "and other life forms *is* imporant to ... " 
>>>> (not I)
>>>>
>>>> also waving from the southern hemisphere, in the midst of 
>>>> moving-in-to-new-home chaos 😁
>>>>
>>>> h : )
>>>>
>>>> On 13.12.22 16:41, Nancy Mauro-Flude wrote:
>>>>> HI Anne / All
>>>>>
>>>>> offering forth some text for 'about page'  feel free to tweak:
>>>>>
>>>>> The earliest known feminist web server collective is 
>>>>> SysterServer.net launched on International Womxn’s Day, 8 March 
>>>>> 2005, as an initiative of the Gender Changer Academy. The 
>>>>> SysterServer.net offers services to feminist, queer and 
>>>>> antipatriarchal groups and collectives. It provides an autonomous 
>>>>> repository of resources and digital literacy support to womxn 
>>>>> where it was, and still is, partially seeded from the Open Source 
>>>>> and Free Software movements, which seek to incorporate principles 
>>>>> of freedom in sharing information and source code for others to 
>>>>> modify and extend to better suit holistic predilections.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first web server of SysterServer.net was lovingly named Jean. 
>>>>> The act of renaming the hardware webservers as Adele and Jean is 
>>>>> contrary to heavily prescribed trajectories and metaphors in IT 
>>>>> language, such as ‘Master and Slave’, which was once typical when 
>>>>> referring to computational hardware drives.  Attending to the 
>>>>> persuasive power of metaphors and languages, as well as materials 
>>>>> and bodies, that then script bio-socio-political life of humans 
>>>>> and other life forms I important to SysterServer.net and feminist 
>>>>> internet frontier allies.
>>>>>
>>>>> The implementation of technical utilities and the related costs 
>>>>> involved are conferred, administered, and maintained cooperatively 
>>>>> with peers. In this way, feminist web servers are built, 
>>>>> installed, co-designed, maintained, and autonomously determined by 
>>>>> an intimate community of ‘prosumers’ which bestows agency to the 
>>>>> hands-on procedures beyond a typical consumer of off-the-shelf 
>>>>> computational client user service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Wishes from the southern hemisphere
>>>>> Nancy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/12/2022 10:53, Anne Roth wrote:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agreed to help write a short draft for the 'about page' of
>>>>>> systerserver.town, explaining a little who runs it and what it's 
>>>>>> for,
>>>>>> and what it isn't for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since it's a project by the systerserver collective I thought I'd
>>>>>> start by describing what and who this group is, maybe by taking it
>>>>>> from something that's been written before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is quite concise https://systerserver.net/ which is totally 
>>>>>> fine
>>>>>> but is there more anywhere? Do you have pieces of text that was used
>>>>>> for anything maybe? If not that's just as well, it doesn't have 
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> long at all. But if yes that would be super helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>
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