[Adminsysters] Your grant request was not awarded

[natacha]

Hi Helen,


Sorry for the response delay, and also super sorry to hear that upstage 
did not go through, indeed NGI0 is super technical but upstage should 
certainly qualify. If you want you can PM me the application you made 
and we can review this together.
Did CCT supported you on this?

If other people are interested we could schedule a moment to present the 
fund.

heart
n.



On 4/17/23 23:27, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>
> hi natacha,
>
> thanks for sharing this. i also recently applied to NLnet for a grant 
> for UpStage, in collaboration with mur.at & artists in graz. we didn't 
> get it, but we did get some helpful feedback & i also came to 
> understand that they are most interested in funding very technical 
> stuff. our application was based around a technical need but it was 
> not such an essential thing and there was also a large artistic / 
> training component which they were not interested in funding.
>
> i don't know if we will apply again to NLNet - it was good in that the 
> application process was not too onerous, & there was good 
> communication & feedback, but UpStage is fundamentally an arts 
> project, even if we are making the technology for it, & i'm not sure 
> how we could meet the criteria.
>
> if there is a meeting about this i will try to join (if the time 
> difference works as i'm still in nz).
>
>  h : )
>
> On 18.04.23 02:20, natacha wrote:
>> Dears,
>>
>>
>> I unfortunately had not followed the list for a while, end as I open 
>> the folder to see where people are at in systerserver I see this 
>> rejection e-mail.
>>
>> As some of you might know petites singularités is part of the NGI0 
>> consortium as we do mentoring. In the previous 4 years it was only 
>> hellekin working but since january I have decided to join also 
>> (mainly because there are other feminist structures that have entered 
>> and I hoped it would make a change.)
>>
>> This does not mean we have any impact on which projects are decided 
>> for, quite the contrary Nlnet handles the consortium in an autocratic 
>> way and it is very difficult to act upon anything, or even get to 
>> have any information (we only see the accepted applications).
>>
>> But still we are struggling us and a handful of other partners.
>>
>> In all cases as mentors it is our role to support people in the 
>> process of writing their application and in the past 4 years we have 
>> supported a number of projects into successful granting. So please if 
>> people from this community want to apply to NGI0 funding do ping me 
>> and we can have a chat and give counsels about how the grant demand 
>> should be presented.
>> As a bottom line, only super technical projects are accepted, we are 
>> advocating that they consider funding projects that would be more 
>> community geared but it is like shouting in the void. So I will use 
>> this case (as much as other rejection cases) to make my point again 
>> .... and... again.
>>
>> If people want to know more about those issues and the functioning of 
>> the NGI0 grant,  I would be happy to join a meeting one of those days 
>> and talk about it.
>>
>>
>> Warm regards
>>
>> natacha
>>
>> p.s.: Obviously what is talked here stays here.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/15/23 18:27, michiel at nlnet.nl wrote:
>>> Dear Mara,
>>>
>>>
>>> we have identified the projects we will be further investigating for 
>>> the latest NREN open call. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your 
>>> project "Feminist sysadmin handbook" (2023-02-003) unfortunately was 
>>> not among those selected.
>>>
>>> This in no way means that we do not see the value of the work you 
>>> proposed. We get many more excellent proposals than we can grant 
>>> with our limited means, so competition is extremely tough. There are 
>>> unfortunately many talented independent researchers, developers and 
>>> community leaders that need funding. In addition to that, the 
>>> specific scope and rules of play of each call pose (sometimes 
>>> artificial) limits in our selection that mean excellent projects 
>>> leave empty-handed - because they just do not fit well enough within 
>>> a certain fund.
>>>
>>> Again, we are very sorry that we cannot offer you support for your 
>>> good efforts. We hope you are not discouraged, and are able to 
>>> secure funding elsewhere for the project, for instance from any of 
>>> these organisations:
>>>
>>> https://NLnet.nl/foundation/network.html
>>>
>>> or through other calls from the Next Generation Internet:
>>>
>>> https://www.ngi.eu/opencalls
>>>
>>> And do trust that we have your funding need and the outline of your 
>>> project in the back of our head from now on, and so we might come 
>>> back to you if an opportunity arises (unless you asked us to destroy 
>>> your contact details in the application form, in which case we will 
>>> do so).
>>>
>>> If you should have any questions, please let us know. And in case 
>>> you have another good project in mind in the future, do not hesitate 
>>> to submit again!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> on behalf of NLnet foundation,
>>>
>>> Michiel Leenaars
>>> Strategy Director
>>> +31 20 8884252
>>>
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> helen varley jamieson
>
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