[Adminsysters] Your grant request was not awarded

Wed May 3 00:50:36 CEST 2023

hi natacha,

i answered you off-list a week or two ago, did you not receive that? i 
sent a copy of the application. let me know if i should resend.

it's a good idea to schedule a meeting to present the fund (i am 10 
hours ahead of europe at the moment which might make finding a time 
challenging)

h : )

On 02.05.23 23:33, natacha wrote:
> Hi Helen,
>
>
> Sorry for the response delay, and also super sorry to hear that 
> upstage did not go through, indeed NGI0 is super technical but upstage 
> should certainly qualify. If you want you can PM me the application 
> you made and we can review this together.
> Did CCT supported you on this?
>
> If other people are interested we could schedule a moment to present 
> the fund.
>
> heart
> n.
>
>
>
> On 4/17/23 23:27, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>
>> hi natacha,
>>
>> thanks for sharing this. i also recently applied to NLnet for a grant 
>> for UpStage, in collaboration with mur.at & artists in graz. we 
>> didn't get it, but we did get some helpful feedback & i also came to 
>> understand that they are most interested in funding very technical 
>> stuff. our application was based around a technical need but it was 
>> not such an essential thing and there was also a large artistic / 
>> training component which they were not interested in funding.
>>
>> i don't know if we will apply again to NLNet - it was good in that 
>> the application process was not too onerous, & there was good 
>> communication & feedback, but UpStage is fundamentally an arts 
>> project, even if we are making the technology for it, & i'm not sure 
>> how we could meet the criteria.
>>
>> if there is a meeting about this i will try to join (if the time 
>> difference works as i'm still in nz).
>>
>>  h : )
>>
>> On 18.04.23 02:20, natacha wrote:
>>> Dears,
>>>
>>>
>>> I unfortunately had not followed the list for a while, end as I open 
>>> the folder to see where people are at in systerserver I see this 
>>> rejection e-mail.
>>>
>>> As some of you might know petites singularités is part of the NGI0 
>>> consortium as we do mentoring. In the previous 4 years it was only 
>>> hellekin working but since january I have decided to join also 
>>> (mainly because there are other feminist structures that have 
>>> entered and I hoped it would make a change.)
>>>
>>> This does not mean we have any impact on which projects are decided 
>>> for, quite the contrary Nlnet handles the consortium in an 
>>> autocratic way and it is very difficult to act upon anything, or 
>>> even get to have any information (we only see the accepted 
>>> applications).
>>>
>>> But still we are struggling us and a handful of other partners.
>>>
>>> In all cases as mentors it is our role to support people in the 
>>> process of writing their application and in the past 4 years we have 
>>> supported a number of projects into successful granting. So please 
>>> if people from this community want to apply to NGI0 funding do ping 
>>> me and we can have a chat and give counsels about how the grant 
>>> demand should be presented.
>>> As a bottom line, only super technical projects are accepted, we are 
>>> advocating that they consider funding projects that would be more 
>>> community geared but it is like shouting in the void. So I will use 
>>> this case (as much as other rejection cases) to make my point again 
>>> .... and... again.
>>>
>>> If people want to know more about those issues and the functioning 
>>> of the NGI0 grant,  I would be happy to join a meeting one of those 
>>> days and talk about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>>
>>> natacha
>>>
>>> p.s.: Obviously what is talked here stays here.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/15/23 18:27, michiel at nlnet.nl wrote:
>>>> Dear Mara,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we have identified the projects we will be further investigating 
>>>> for the latest NREN open call. I'm sorry to have to inform you that 
>>>> your project "Feminist sysadmin handbook" (2023-02-003) 
>>>> unfortunately was not among those selected.
>>>>
>>>> This in no way means that we do not see the value of the work you 
>>>> proposed. We get many more excellent proposals than we can grant 
>>>> with our limited means, so competition is extremely tough. There 
>>>> are unfortunately many talented independent researchers, developers 
>>>> and community leaders that need funding. In addition to that, the 
>>>> specific scope and rules of play of each call pose (sometimes 
>>>> artificial) limits in our selection that mean excellent projects 
>>>> leave empty-handed - because they just do not fit well enough 
>>>> within a certain fund.
>>>>
>>>> Again, we are very sorry that we cannot offer you support for your 
>>>> good efforts. We hope you are not discouraged, and are able to 
>>>> secure funding elsewhere for the project, for instance from any of 
>>>> these organisations:
>>>>
>>>> https://NLnet.nl/foundation/network.html
>>>>
>>>> or through other calls from the Next Generation Internet:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ngi.eu/opencalls
>>>>
>>>> And do trust that we have your funding need and the outline of your 
>>>> project in the back of our head from now on, and so we might come 
>>>> back to you if an opportunity arises (unless you asked us to 
>>>> destroy your contact details in the application form, in which case 
>>>> we will do so).
>>>>
>>>> If you should have any questions, please let us know. And in case 
>>>> you have another good project in mind in the future, do not 
>>>> hesitate to submit again!
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> on behalf of NLnet foundation,
>>>>
>>>> Michiel Leenaars
>>>> Strategy Director
>>>> +31 20 8884252
>>>>
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>>
>> helen varley jamieson
>>
>> helen at creative-catalyst.com
>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>> http://www.upstage.org.nz
>> https://mobilise-demobilise.eu
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