[Adminsysters] systerserver update in anarchaserver wiki
Helen Varley Jamieson
helen at creative-catalyst.com
Thu Feb 20 17:12:24 CET 2025
thanks nate. the terms are and will be constantly evolving, so will
always benefit from being revisited & discussed. i'm fine with "women,
lesbians & trans*" for now, if everyone else is.
h : )
On 2/20/25 14:06, nate wessalowski wrote:
>
> hi helen,
>
> thank you for your feedback and comments. we did indeed talk a lot
> about how to describe our identity politics.
>
> i have summed up some additional thoughts (mostly what we also talked
> about but some also in addition to that):
>
> the phrasing "women, lesbians and trans*" pays tribute to a branch
> of lesbian theory that makes a constructivist claim about gender,
> popularized by monique wittig (afaik). it states that lesbians are
> indeed not, or at least different than women because the social
> gender of 'women' is defined in relation to 'men' (and lesbian
> identity would rather be defined in relation to other lesbians or
> women). of course many lesbians identify as women, such as some
> trans people, which are sometimes also lesbians :) so it is not
> three different categories, they are all intertwined.
>
> and then there is another, historical argument for the additional
> naming of lesbians, which is the importance of their contribution
> to the 'women's movement'. i think that the phasing 'women and
> lesbians' and later 'women, lesbians and trans*' also has a
> tradition in early feminist organizing but i would have to
> research that...
>
> if we only name the 'women, lesbians and trans*, the 'trans*' is
> meant to include non-binary people as they mostly transitioned
> away from their assigned sex at birth, even if they are not binary
> trans. however that is not true for inter people, which is not so
> cool i guess.
>
> so so other possibility is to go with the german acronym FLINTA
> which includes 'women, lesbians, inter, non-binary, trans and
> agender people'.
>
> i would wait a week or two to see if other people want to add
> something to this discussion before i upload the entry to alexandria.
>
> cheers,
>
> nate
>
> On 2/18/25 12:08, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>
>> great work 🙂 i made some comments & suggestions on the pad.
>>
>> h : )
>>
>> On 2/17/25 22:17, adalanerd wrote:
>>>
>>> hi everyone!
>>>
>>> we took profit of this session to catch up and chat a bit with natx
>>> and carmela. we took some time to discuss the different phrasing
>>> options to replace the third and fourth iteration of "women" by a
>>> more relevant one, and we come up with a proposal for updating some
>>> bits.
>>>
>>> -
>>> https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver
>>>
>>> proposal:
>>>
>>> Systerserver is one of the earliest known feminist server
>>> collectives. Systerserver was initially set up to get more women
>>> involved in technology. Currently, Systerserver is managed by
>>> women, lesbians and trans* people fighting against the
>>> [https://blackfeminisms.com/matrix/ 'matrix of domination'].
>>> There are two main aims to the project: a) creating a space
>>> where women, lesbians and trans* people can become system
>>> administrators and maintain free and open source software b)
>>> hosting feminist infrastructures for technopolitical
>>> organization within our communities and in part for other
>>> feminist initiatives. The server hosts
>>> [https://git.systerserver.netGitlab], Nextcloud,
>>> a[https://systerserver.townMastodon instance],
>>> [https://lists.systerserver.net/mailing lists], a
>>> [https://tube.systerserver.netfeminist videoplatform
>>> (PeerTube)],
>>> [https://git.systerserver.net/systerserver/doc-website/-/wikis/home#tools%22%22technical
>>> documentation],
>>> [https://git.systerserver.net/mara/vpn-zines/-/wikis/docsVPN
>>> zines]and the
>>> [https://eclectictechcarnival.org/ETC/about/Eclectic Tech
>>> Carnival website]
>>>
>>> regarding the practical infos, we noticed an inconsistency between
>>> the email addresses on the wiki (contact at systerserver.net) and on
>>> systerserver.net (info at systerserver.net). are they both valid?
>>>
>>> - https://systerserver.net/
>>>
>>> we didn't come up with an actual proposal but natx brought up some
>>> various-sized paragraphs to replace or complete the existing one.
>>> you can find this all on the pad:
>>> https://eth.leverburns.blue/p/alexandria_update
>>>
>>> good night!
>>> Le 17/02/2025 à 20:05, mara a écrit :
>>>> Indeed /etc was in 2002, and the syster server in 2005, I had found
>>>> the date in the mailing list archives a while back, when we were
>>>> writing the federation essay with nate
>>>>
>>>> mara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 February 2025 19:05:42 CET, nate wessalowski
>>>> <wessalow at posteo.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi all, we meet here in one hour:
>>>> https://visio.futuretic.fr/systerserveralexandriaupdate [sorry,
>>>> i completely forgot to send a reminder with the date and time,
>>>> i hope someone shows up]] On 1/24/25 12:24, Helen Varley
>>>> Jamieson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> great, thanks. let me know after the meeting & i will do a
>>>> proofreading. (was systerserver actually founded as early
>>>> as 2002? that was /etc, i thought systerserver came a bit
>>>> later ... ) On 24/01/2025 12:03 pm, nats wessax wrote:
>>>>
>>>> cool, cool. here is the link to what it says now:
>>>> https://alexandria.anarchaserver.org/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section#Systerserver
>>>> On 1/24/25 11:55, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i would be happy to proofread/check the
>>>> systerserver text once it's done (english). is
>>>> there a link to look at the text that's there now?
>>>> h : ) On 23/01/2025 4:57 pm, nats wessax wrote:
>>>>
>>>> looks like monday 17th of febuary is a good
>>>> time. anybody else wants to join? (i can also
>>>> add more dates) nate On 1/18/25 16:00, nats
>>>> wessax wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi, i am doing this round call for updating
>>>> the anarchaserver wiki and it would also be
>>>> cool to update the systerserver text there:
>>>> does anybody want to join me in rewriting
>>>> the paragraph? then pls click the poll :))
>>>> https://transitional.anarchaserver.org/date/studs.php?poll=uOdww6HW4zWwpVNB
>>>> greets! nate [they/them]
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