[Adminsysters] AMRO - becoming unreadable - meetup

Fri Jan 16 09:22:27 CET 2026

i made some more changes & not sure how well they will show up in the 
document so listing here:

line 47: "Systerserver is a network of ... " (rather than "offers 
services to its network ... " to avoid the service provider suggestion)

lines 143-5 - i've put in what i suggest, & we should add if people 
should bring their laptop.

line 158-60 - i haven't added here, but think we should put in something 
along the lines of my comment below.

lines 185-6 - should we add here where we are coming from? i'd be 
travelling from munich.

might be good to add some additional information in that final section? 
something about our community's interconnection with many different 
groups & working to share FOSS skills over a long period of time??

sorry i can't do more on this now, i did a lot of driving today & then 
had an amazing time watching huge flocks of shorebirds doing their 
evening murmurations & settling down - i'm at this place: 
https://shorebirds.org.nz/ - & need to sleep now 🙂

good luck with getting the proposal submitted & fingers crossed it's 
accepted!

h : )

On 1/16/26 10:19, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>
> it looks great. a couple of comments:
>
> in the question about whether specific basic skills are required - it 
> could be worded the other way around: "Some prior technical knowledge 
> will be helpful, but the discussion will still be informative for 
> Linux/network beginners" - otherwise it sounds a bit off-putting. & 
> should participants bring a laptop? will it be a hands-on workshop or 
> more of a presentation?
>
> after that, we need to answer the question "What does "radically open" 
> mean to you?" - i think it's very important to answer this, as that's 
> the heart of the festival. for example, radically open for us means 
> literally opening up the hardware & software & getting into the guts 
> of it; it means knowing how stuff works, not just accepting a closed box.
>
> & "How do you F/LOSS?" - we need to answer how we communicate our 
> approach to open source - e.g. through our long-standing community, 
> shared learning experiences, working together on the servers and 
> tools/platforms, mailing lists & workshops & being open to new people 
> coming in, giving workshops, presentations, book chapters, etc.
>
> i'm travelling at the moment but will try to look again later this 
> evening (i'm in nz so that's friday morning in europe)
>
> h : )
>
> On 1/16/26 05:09, adalanerd wrote:
>>
>> ok, i think i'm done on my side :) Is there any opposition to send 
>> the proposal as systerserver? Or should I send it only in my own name 
>> only?
>>
>> I also noted the following group members:
>> - ooooo
>> - mara
>> - Helen
>> - Selena
>>
>> are you all OK to be referenced as such? I guess it's still possible 
>> to edit the list afterwards.
>>
>> deadline is tomorrow around 16:00 CET.
>>
>> Le 13/01/2026 à 10:29, adalanerd a écrit :
>>>
>>> hey,
>>>
>>> yes as i see from the notes, a participation to the event isn't as 
>>> consensual as i thought. But i'm still up to propose the workshop.
>>>
>>> about today's meeting, i will actually not be available today... but 
>>> i did prepare a draft application on the pad 
>>> <https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw?edit> so if some of 
>>> you are available, maybe you can meet without me to read, discuss 
>>> it? And if you feel like engaging into its preparation, then we can 
>>> either work by email or catch up another day.
>>>
>>> I will spend my thursday at my desk to work on such things so we can 
>>> maybe arrange a call in the afternoon?
>>>
>>> :*
>>>
>>> Le 09/01/2026 à 18:11, ooooo a écrit :
>>>> hi ada, it was  discussed in meeting a bit AMRO
>>>> see notes meeting
>>>> we note you propose a meeting for propssal 14th - tuesday - 16:00
>>>> which channel?
>>>> xm
>>>>
>>>> On 1/4/26 23:33, adalanerd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you for enthusiastic replies! I've never been to AMRO yet so 
>>>>> I'd be even more glad to meet you all there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I'm very bad at following up date polls in general, I'd 
>>>>> rather propose this:
>>>>> - I started filling and copypasting the form on a pad 
>>>>> <https://pad.public.cat/sEaH4tR5Q5i1aK6fpWm6hw#> with basic values;
>>>>> - we can arrange a meeting by the end of week (let's say tuesday 
>>>>> 16:00 CET unless we can arrange a more consensual timeslot) to go 
>>>>> deeper into our intentions and the format we want to propose;
>>>>> - then by Jan 14th, we can review the application on the pad so I 
>>>>> can send it before the deadline (Jan 16th, 16:26 CET).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 04/01/2026 à 13:32, Selena Savic a écrit :
>>>>>> AMRO is really great and it would be wonderful to have this 
>>>>>> workshop there. I would also like to go this year and plan to 
>>>>>> propose something with a friend from Vienna. I would love to join 
>>>>>> this workshop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kisses,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selena
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Selena Savic
>>>>>> http://pravi.me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/01/2026 21:58, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>>>>>> this is a great festival & i would love to be there again - i'm 
>>>>>>> thinking about proposing something with UpStage but haven't had 
>>>>>>> a chance to think about it yet. i don't know anything about vpn 
>>>>>>> tunnelling but if i'm there & there is anything systerserver 
>>>>>>> happening then i would of course join 🙂
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/2/26 11:51, adalanerd wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone and happy new year!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone plan to apply to AMRO's CFP, "becoming unreadable"? 
>>>>>>>> https://radical-openness.org/en/amro26-call-participation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we should propose a feminist server workshop there!
>>>>>>>> My suggestion is to propose a session on community VPN 
>>>>>>>> tunnelling because it'd fit the topic quite well IMO. And it'd 
>>>>>>>> also be a nice occasion to extend the existing networks and 
>>>>>>>> improving docs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I guess there are many other options, no?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kisses,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ada
>>>>>>>>
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